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Re: [Ifeffit] Help installing Demeter on a Mac
by Fowler, Joseph W. (Assoc) 01 Jul '23

01 Jul '23

Hello Kyle, I agree that putting /opt/local/bin in your PATH should be adequate, so this isn’t totally obvious. The executables athena, hephaestus, and artemis should all be in /opt/local/bin/. Are they? What is the result if you execute the following? $ port contents demeter I’m the official maintainer of the Macports version of Demeter. Unfortunately, I’m not a regular user. In fact, it’s not installed on the everyday computer that I’ve had for four years (to give you an idea of what “not regular” means to me). Worse, there’s a chronic problem that I have never worked out how to solve. The Demeter ports depends on many things. One is ifeffit, which is not really still supported, but Demeter can’t just magically start using Matt Newville’s replacement for ifeffit, known as Larch. It feels to me like Mac-Demeter is doomed to break permanently pretty soon, if it has not already. [Bruce, Matt, have I stated that accurately? Please correct me if I’m wrong.] Still, there exists a port for ifeffit and for demeter, and one should be able to install them. I’m trying it right now on a Mac that lacks them. It will take me a while, because I’m not a Perl user either, and there are dozens of dependencies to install first. Let’s see how it goes for me… This install is taking a very long time. I’m going to send this note as-is and report later about whether I can make athena run, and where the executable is located. (But I’m sure it will be /opt/local/bin/ ) Could I suggest that, if you get it to work, and you use it regularly, and you’re an open-source supporter, would you think about helping as a second official maintainer of the Demeter port? Other users could benefit from me teaming up with an actual demeter user, to be sure! Best wishes, Joe Fowler NIST Boulder Labs On Jun 30, 2023, at 11:00 AM, ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit-request@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> wrote: Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenia.c…<http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit-request@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> You can reach the person managing the list at ifeffit-owner(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit-owner@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ifeffit digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Help installing Demeter on a Mac (Kluherz, Tk) From: "Kluherz, Tk" <Tk.Kluherz(a)nrel.gov<mailto:Tk.Kluherz@nrel.gov>> Subject: [Ifeffit] Help installing Demeter on a Mac Date: June 30, 2023 at 10:02:03 AM MDT To: "ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>" <ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>> Hello All, I’m a new postdoc at NREL, trying to install Demeter on my NREL Mac. I have previously only installed it on a Linux system. I followed the instructions<https://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/documents/SinglePage/macinstallation.h…> for installing on a Mac, including the logout/login, and the installation appeared to be successful, with no errors. However, when I then try to run athena/artemis/hephaestus from the command line, I get a ‘command not found’ error. Has anyone encountered this problem before? I thought I found a thread in the archives from 2014, but there was not response to the issue. I suspect it may be that the command location was not added to the $PATH, but am not sure where it is in order to add it. Here’s the output from echo $PATH: /opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Kyle _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit

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Help installing Demeter on a Mac
by Kluherz, Tk 30 Jun '23

30 Jun '23

Hello All, I’m a new postdoc at NREL, trying to install Demeter on my NREL Mac. I have previously only installed it on a Linux system. I followed the instructions<https://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/documents/SinglePage/macinstallation.h…> for installing on a Mac, including the logout/login, and the installation appeared to be successful, with no errors. However, when I then try to run athena/artemis/hephaestus from the command line, I get a ‘command not found’ error. Has anyone encountered this problem before? I thought I found a thread in the archives from 2014, but there was not response to the issue. I suspect it may be that the command location was not added to the $PATH, but am not sure where it is in order to add it. Here’s the output from echo $PATH: /opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Kyle

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EXAFS course at BNL: Nov. 1-3, 2023
by Anatoly Frenkel 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

Dear subscribers: The information about the upcoming XAFS short course is here: https://www.bnl.gov/xafscourse/ The course will be taught in-person. The place in the course is limited, and, due to the emphasis on advanced methods, the preference will be given to those participants who have prior experience with EXAFS data modeling and analysis. The info about the past course topics (2005-2022) is at the SCC website: https://you.stonybrook.edu/scc2/xafs-workshops/ Regards, Anatoly ------------------------------------------------------------------- Anatoly I. Frenkel Professor Department of Materials Science and Chemical Engineering (primary appointment) Department of Chemistry (affiliate appointment) * Stony Brook University * Stony Brook, NY 11794 Email: anatoly.frenkel(a)stonybrook.edu <https://mail.bnl.gov/OWA/redir.aspx?C=F6wCGt4adziN6IvpdRQ-rWdgy3Oaoif_x-0yb…> http://you.stonybrook.edu/frenkel Co-Director and Spokesperson, Synchrotron Catalysis Consortium (SCC) at BNL http://you.stonybrook.edu/scc2 Joint Appointment: Senior Chemist Chemistry Division, *Brookhaven National Laboratory* Upton, NY 11973. Ph: 631-344-3013. Group: 631-344-3494 Email: frenkel(a)bnl.gov https://www.bnl.gov/staff/frenkel -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Postdoc position at BM23 ID24 XAS beamlines
by Kirill LOMACHENKO 28 Jun '23

28 Jun '23

Dear all, we are looking for an excellent postdoc to work with us at BM23 and ID24 XAS beamlines of the ESRF (Grenoble, France) in the field of chemistry (catalysis, electrochemistry, energy materials, etc). Cutting-edge research, state-of-the-art equipment, friendly team, competent users, great location, competitive salary and all other things to make a scientist happy. If you are good at applying XAS for chemistry (or know someone who is), please find the link to the position below (in case the link is not visible, just google "ESRF jobs"). Do not hesitate to contact me for more details. Best regards, Kirill Lomachenko -- Dr. Kirill A. Lomachenko Scientist at BM23/ID24 beamlines European Synchrotron Radiation Facility 71 avenue des Martyrs CS 40220 38043 Grenoble Cedex 9, France Tel: +33 438 88 19 14 www.esrf.eu

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Brain teaser
by Anatoly Frenkel 15 Jun '23

15 Jun '23

Hello, all. It is a low- to medium- level brain teaser. Pt-coated collimating mirror was in place for Pd K-edge measurement, but Au L3-edge of Pd-Au alloy was measured (for testing purposes). I0 and It detectors were both Ar filled ionization chambers. Because of the energy dependence of reflectivity of the Pt mirror, I0 intensity was strongly nonlinear (blue curve). However, the transmission intensity in the It detector was almost linear (red curve). Why? Anatoly [image: image.png]

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Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Brain teaser
by Anatoly Frenkel 15 Jun '23

15 Jun '23

Thank you, Robert, Matthew, Jeff, Kirill, Terry and Sirine for great suggestions. I initially thought that the explanation for the linearity or the transmission signal is a superposition of two opposite trends: 1) increase of flux with energy due to the mirror effect and 2) similar decrease with energy due to the photon removal by first effect in the I0 detector. But I did not look into the main reason for the curving up of the I0 signal and I agree it is not a result of the reflectivity. I fill follow up on all suggestions, and, if something more definitive transpires, will report back. Thanks again for your time and advice! Anatoly > On Jun 15, 2023, at 2:10 AM, matthew marcus <mamarcus(a)lbl.gov> wrote: > The mirror was set up for a run at the Pd K-edge, according to the problem statement. Therefore, its nominal angle must be such as to put the critical energy >25keV. An angle of 3mrad would do it. At that angle, the reflectivity (assuming no roughness) goes up with energy in the relevant range, but only by a few percent. > > We're not told what the ratio of gains of the current amps is, or whether the ion chambers have the same path length, so we can't tell whether the signals are comparable, as shown on the graph, or orders of magnitude different. > mam > > On 6/14/2023 10:17 PM, Jeffrey Terry wrote: >> Well, I’ll take a shot. Looks like the mirror angle is totally fubared, you are getting Bragg peaks from the coating or substrate that are giving you the peaks in Io. Since you have no idea what angle those are going through Io, they are unlikely to make it into either the sample or It. Since those photons are removed from the beam hitting the sample, they would show up as intensity dips in It. I’d bet that most (all?) of the reflected beam is not going into the sample. I’m kind of surprised It signal is as clean as it is, but then I don’t know the gains on either measurement amplifiers. I couldn’t find a flat mirror angle that would cause the cutoff at 12870? eV but since it is a collimating mirror who knows what range of angles were actually being hit. >> Jeff Terry >> Interim Chair, Department of Biology >> Interim Chair, Department of Social Sciences >> Professor of Physics >> Professor of Mechanical, Materials, and Aerospace Engineering >> Editor, Applied Surface Science >> Illinois Institute of Technology >> 3101 S. Dearborn St. >> Chicago IL 60616 >> 630-252-9708 >>> On Jun 14, 2023, at 7:27 PM, Anatoly Frenkel <anatoly.frenkel(a)stonybrook.edu <mailto:anatoly.frenkel@stonybrook.edu>> wrote: >>> Hello, all. It is a low- to medium- level brain teaser. >>> Pt-coated collimating mirror was in place for Pd K-edge measurement, but Au L3-edge of Pd-Au alloy was measured (for testing purposes). I0 and It detectors were both Ar filled ionization chambers. Because of the energy dependence of reflectivity of the Pt mirror, I0 intensity was strongly nonlinear (blue curve). However, the transmission intensity in the It detector was almost linear (red curve). Why? >>> Anatoly >>> <image.png> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ifeffit mailing list >>> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov <mailto:Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> >>> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >>> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit >> _______________________________________________ >> Ifeffit mailing list >> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit > _______________________________________________ > Ifeffit mailing list > Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit > Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit

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Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser
by Kirill LOMACHENKO 15 Jun '23

15 Jun '23

Hi Anatoly, maybe the high voltage of the I0 chamber is off? All the best, Kirill Dr. Kirill A. Lomachenko Scientist at BM23/ID24 beamlines European Synchrotron Radiation Facility 71 avenue des Martyrs CS 40220 38043 Grenoble Cedex 9, France Tel: +33 438 88 19 14 www.esrf.eu On 15/06/2023 08:09, ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov wrote: > Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to > ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ifeffit-owner(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ifeffit digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Brain teaser (Anatoly Frenkel) > 2. Re: [Ext] Brain teaser (Jeffrey Terry) > 3. Re: [Ext] Brain teaser (matthew marcus) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 00:30:41 -0400 > From: Anatoly Frenkel <anatoly.frenkel(a)stonybrook.edu> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Brain teaser > Message-ID: <866EACCF-DAD2-4486-AAE0-AC3F6B28023E(a)stonybrook.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Amazing idea. I thunk you were the only one who succeeded to use third harmonic of Si for taking EXAFS at high atomic number elements. But that does not explain the peaks and dips. > > Anatoly > >> On Jun 15, 2023, at 12:22 AM, matthew marcus <mamarcus(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >> >> ?Suppose the mono is being used at the 333 reflection (for Si), intentionally working at the 3rd harmonic. In that case, if the fundamental isn't filtered out, you could get just what we see, with the sample doing the filtering before the beam gets to the transmission chamber. >> mam >> >>> On 6/14/2023 9:16 PM, Anatoly Frenkel wrote: >>> Thank you, Matthew and Robert, but I think the explanation is more simplle. The fact that there are peaks in I0 and dips in transmission is a clue that explains why transmission is almost linear while I0 curves up. >>> Anatoly >>>>> On Jun 14, 2023, at 11:34 PM, matthew marcus <mamarcus(a)lbl.gov> wrote: >>>> ?One thing that's pretty odd is that the glitches are peaks in I0, and dips in It. It would be much easier to explain if It was the one that increased steeply and I0 was more linear, but the presence of the edge in It shows that you didn't switch them. Red = It. What's that sudden drop at the end? >>>> >>>> Could it be that the I0 chamber is misaligned so that beam is scraping one of the plates? That could cause all sorts of odd things to happen. >>>> mam >>>> >>>>> On 6/14/2023 5:27 PM, Anatoly Frenkel wrote: >>>>> Hello, all. It is a low- to medium- level brain teaser. >>>>> Pt-coated collimating mirror was in place for Pd K-edge measurement, but Au L3-edge of Pd-Au alloy was measured (for testing purposes). I0 and It detectors were both Ar filled ionization chambers. Because of the energy dependence of reflectivity of the Pt mirror, I0 intensity was strongly nonlinear (blue curve). However, the transmission intensity in the It detector was almost linear (red curve). Why? >>>>> Anatoly >>>>> image.png >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ifeffit mailing list >>>>> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >>>>> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >>>>> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ifeffit mailing list >>>> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >>>> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >>>> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ifeffit mailing list >>> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >>> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >>> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit >> _______________________________________________ >> Ifeffit mailing list >> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 00:17:35 -0500 > From: Jeffrey Terry <terryj(a)iit.edu> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Brain teaser > Message-ID: <C024E52C-2EDF-49C0-9B5A-168A2B14F8D3(a)iit.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Well, I?ll take a shot. Looks like the mirror angle is totally fubared, you are getting Bragg peaks from the coating or substrate that are giving you the peaks in Io. Since you have no idea what angle those are going through Io, they are unlikely to make it into either the sample or It. Since those photons are removed from the beam hitting the sample, they would show up as intensity dips in It. I?d bet that most (all?) of the reflected beam is not going into the sample. I?m kind of surprised It signal is as clean as it is, but then I don?t know the gains on either measurement amplifiers. I couldn?t find a flat mirror angle that would cause the cutoff at 12870? eV but since it is a collimating mirror who knows what range of angles were actually being hit. > > Jeff Terry > Interim Chair, Department of Biology > Interim Chair, Department of Social Sciences > Professor of Physics > Professor of Mechanical, Materials, and Aerospace Engineering > Editor, Applied Surface Science > Illinois Institute of Technology > 3101 S. Dearborn St. > Chicago IL 60616 > 630-252-9708 > > > > > >> On Jun 14, 2023, at 7:27 PM, Anatoly Frenkel <anatoly.frenkel(a)stonybrook.edu> wrote: >> >> Hello, all. It is a low- to medium- level brain teaser. >> >> Pt-coated collimating mirror was in place for Pd K-edge measurement, but Au L3-edge of Pd-Au alloy was measured (for testing purposes). I0 and It detectors were both Ar filled ionization chambers. Because of the energy dependence of reflectivity of the Pt mirror, I0 intensity was strongly nonlinear (blue curve). However, the transmission intensity in the It detector was almost linear (red curve). Why? >> >> Anatoly >> >> <image.png> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ifeffit mailing list >> Ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov >> http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit >> Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit >

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Larch 0.9.70 released
by Matt Newville 09 Jun '23

09 Jun '23

Hi Folks, We have been releasing a version of X-ray Larch every few months, steadily adding features and improving bugs in XAS Viewer and in the general library. We have not felt the need to announce every release, but I would like to address a problem that many people have seen with automated updates, especially on Windows. Basically, automated updates from XAS Viewer do not work on Windows, and running the automated updates can (and I think even "usually will") lead to a broken installation. This can be (and needs to be) fixed by running C:\Users\YourName\xraylarch\Scripts\pip install --upgrade xraylarch from a Command Prompt terminal. With the latest version, XAS Viewer will only inform you (in the status bars at the bottom of the main window) when an update is available, and not continually prompt you to update now. A new desktop application called "Larch Updater" will also be installed that will run the above command. Unfortunately, the current version you have installed will still prompt you for an automated update. I recommend that you do not do this, but run the above command yourself, and then going forward, we'll all be able to use the updater at our own pace. --Matt PS: Some of the other changes in the latest version can be seen at https://github.com/xraypy/xraylarch/releases/tag/0.9.70

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Post-doc position at SSRL
by Ritimukta Sarangi 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

Hello Folks, We have an open post-doc position in XAS/EXAFS/advanced spectroscopy at SSRL. We are looking for someone with expertise in or interest in biological/molecular applications of XAS. Please see the job listing here: https://careers.slac.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/SSRL_X-ray_Spectrosco… If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out. We are hoping to fill this position asap but can wait for for a few months for the right candidate! Kind regards, Riti Sarangi SSRL Sent from my iPhone

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python accesses outlook PST files during X-ray larch binary installation on Windows 10 computer
by Voegelin, Andreas 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

Dear All I apologize for this question related to IT safety rather than science and the use of Larch. Today, I installed Larch for Windows on an institute computer using the latest Windows 64-bit binary installer (0.9.68). Now I got the following alert from our IT security: “The process c:\users\%USER%\appdata\local\xraylarch\python.exe accessed Outlook files. The user who ran the process was XXXX. The accessed files were: XXXX.pst, YYYY.pst”. It seems that during the installation of Larch, python.exe accessed some outlook archive files in another folder on the C drive, and I do not know if this should be a matter of concern. Has anyone experienced a similar behavior before, or does anyone with Larch/python skills have an explanation for this? Cheers, Andreas

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