July 2015 - Ifeffit - millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov

Artemis Crashing on Opening Project Files (Windows 7)
by alexander.thoma＠diamond.ac.uk 20 Jul '15

20 Jul '15

Hi all, I couldn't seem to find anything like this on the mailing list, I'm having issues reopening saved Artemis (0.9.21) projects on Windows 7, the program opens and runs through the 'importing' text in the bottom left of the control window before shutting down immediately with no error message or warning before any other windows appear. The problem seems to occur sporadically with projects with fits from crystal structures and all the time with those done with quick first shell fits, and doesn't occur with project files where no fits have been made. Attached is the log file for one of the non-opening projects, any suggestions? Many thanks, Alex -- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom

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Bug report - autosave on mac
by Jean-Baptiste ABBE 16 Jul '15

16 Jul '15

Hi everybody, I wanted to report a really annoying problem for mac users. I’m running Athena on my laptop, on OSX 10.10 (Yosemite) with macports. I had to install also quartzX11 to be able to plot data (without it, it couldn’t find the DISPLAY value), but otherwise evrything went smoothly for a few days. Then the first bug occured. I wasn’t able anymore to select any point on the plotting area to do normalization, I had to set the value in the boxes instead. It was annoying, but I could manage that. But now I have a much more disturbing issue. Athena once crashed, (in the terminal, it was sait « Terminated 15 »), and every time I tried to launch it again, the same thing happens : 1) athena launch, a little bit longer than usual 2) a box appear to give me choice to recover data by importing it from autosave or not 3) I can’t select anaything and the rainbow wheel of death appears. After a few hours, nothing changes… and I have to terminate the programm manually. So I do some search on the internet and found thoses topics on the mailing list, and I tried thoses solutions : https://www.mail-archive.com/ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/msg04539.html <https://www.mail-archive.com/ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/msg04539.html> https://www.mail-archive.com/ifeffit%40millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/msg04514.h… <https://www.mail-archive.com/ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/msg04514.html> I tried to find the autosave file : nothing I tried to uninstall and reinstall macports : nothing I tried to uninstall macports and install the demeter-devel : nothing In demeter-devel, i tried to modify the athena.demeter_config file, by changing the autosave prompt box value from true to false, and despite being admin on ma mac, I’m not able to change antything in the file. So nothing works at this moment. I will try again other solutions, but I will gladly accept any kind of help to solve my issues. Thank you ABBE J-Baptiste

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phase problem copper
by Neeb, Matthias 15 Jul '15

15 Jul '15

Dear all, I have a standard exafs spectrum of copper K-shell and everything looks as expected (Chi(E), Chi(k), Chi(R), Chi(q) …) when using Demeter 0.9.21 . However the phase spectrum of (Chi(q)) appears quite different to literature (e.g. B.K. Teo, Inorganic Chemistry Concepts 9; Martens et al, PRB 17, p1481 (1979), i.e. positive slope, a factor of ~10 larger values on y-axis. Any reason why? Thanks for your answer in advance. Regards, Matthias ________________________________________________________________________ Matthias Neeb Helmholtz-Zentrum-Berlin fuer Materialien und Energie - senior scientist - ________________________________ Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie GmbH Mitglied der Hermann von Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft Deutscher Forschungszentren e.V. Aufsichtsrat: Vorsitzender Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Joachim Treusch, stv. Vorsitzende Dr. Beatrix Vierkorn-Rudolph Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Anke Rita Kaysser-Pyzalla, Thomas Frederking Sitz Berlin, AG Charlottenburg, 89 HRB 5583 Postadresse: Hahn-Meitner-Platz 1 D-14109 Berlin http://www.helmholtz-berlin.de

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Re: [Ifeffit] Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp
by Ganesh Subramanian 12 Jul '15

12 Jul '15

Dear Matt, Thanks for that suggestion. I just got time to work on it again. In the meantime, I noticed your email response to another question of similar nature. It works fine now ! Of course, I have not yet performed any calculations/analysis to see if there are any additional problems (if any). But so far so good. Thanks for your help, Ganesh On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM, <ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> wrote: > Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to > ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ifeffit-owner(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ifeffit digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp > (Ganesh Subramanian) > 2. Re: Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp (Matt Newville) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 01:07:56 -0700 > From: Ganesh Subramanian <gunkanna(a)gmail.com> > To: ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp > Message-ID: > <CAAb9e-d2Kvx=VZRmNPOVBcgpCvqD3x= > t4VLLRdDRFtDJMBUURQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > Dear Bruce and Matt, > > > > > > > > My first guess is that the culprit is anti-virus software running on > > Ganesh's computer. I have seen other examples of parts of Demeter being > > falsely identified as problematic and being removed, rendering the > > Demeter programs unusable. > > > > That said, on Ganesh's computer, the gnuplot executable should be in > > > > C:\strawberry\c\bin\gnuplot\bin > > > > Yes - I can locate it exactly at this path and the executable file does > open from there. > > > > > > > There are some other conceivable ways to see this problem, but I am > > placing my first bet on over-aggressive anti-virus software. > > > > I did have McAfee. I uninstalled the program and restarted my computer > and > the problem still persists. It seems very much the same, im posting the > most recent log-file. > > > > > *************************************** > > >

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Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 149, Issue 8
by Ganesh Subramanian 12 Jul '15

12 Jul '15

Dear Matt, Thanks for that suggestion. I just got time to work on it again. In the meantime, I noticed your email response to another question of similar nature. And it works fine now ! Of course, I have not yet performed any calculations/analysis to see if there are any additional problems (if any). But so far so good. Thanks for your help, Ganesh On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM, <ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> wrote: > Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to > ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ifeffit-request(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ifeffit-owner(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ifeffit digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp > (Ganesh Subramanian) > 2. Re: Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp (Matt Newville) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 01:07:56 -0700 > From: Ganesh Subramanian <gunkanna(a)gmail.com> > To: ifeffit(a)millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp > Message-ID: > <CAAb9e-d2Kvx=VZRmNPOVBcgpCvqD3x= > t4VLLRdDRFtDJMBUURQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > Dear Bruce and Matt, > > > > > > > > My first guess is that the culprit is anti-virus software running on > > Ganesh's computer. I have seen other examples of parts of Demeter being > > falsely identified as problematic and being removed, rendering the > > Demeter programs unusable. > > > > That said, on Ganesh's computer, the gnuplot executable should be in > > > > C:\strawberry\c\bin\gnuplot\bin > > > > Yes - I can locate it exactly at this path and the executable file does > open from there. > > > > > > > There are some other conceivable ways to see this problem, but I am > > placing my first bet on over-aggressive anti-virus software. > > > > I did have McAfee. I uninstalled the program and restarted my computer > and > the problem still persists. It seems very much the same, im posting the > most recent log-file. > > > > > *************************************** > > >

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Demeter won't start in Windows 7
by willn 12 Jul '15

12 Jul '15

Hi everyone, My copy of Demeter on my Windows 7 machine stopped working at some point in the recent past, so I have re-installed it, but I still have the same problem - a command window and splash screen open briefly, before disappearing. In my Path variable I have bumped the perl addresses up above the MinGW one, as suggested in one of the common fixes, but this did not solve the problem. I had a good look through the mailing-list archive for similar problems to mine, but each seem to be different (the log file errors were different). I have commented out the appropriate lines in the batch files, but, predictably I guess, this only had the effect of removing the splash screen when the program attempts to start-up. I have also played around a little installing newer versions of Strawberry, but similarly to no avail. If time permits, would anyone mind helping me interpret my log file (attached)? I'm not really computer literate enough to understand what is written there! Grateful thanks in advance, William -- William Nash PhD Student, Experimental Petrology Earth Sciences Department Oxford University

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Re: [Ifeffit] Demeter Crashes on opening in Windows Bootcamp
by Ganesh Subramanian 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

> > Dear Bruce and Matt, > > > My first guess is that the culprit is anti-virus software running on > Ganesh's computer. I have seen other examples of parts of Demeter being > falsely identified as problematic and being removed, rendering the > Demeter programs unusable. > > That said, on Ganesh's computer, the gnuplot executable should be in > > C:\strawberry\c\bin\gnuplot\bin > Yes - I can locate it exactly at this path and the executable file does open from there. > > > There are some other conceivable ways to see this problem, but I am > placing my first bet on over-aggressive anti-virus software. > > I did have McAfee. I uninstalled the program and restarted my computer and the problem still persists. It seems very much the same, im posting the most recent log-file. > > *************************************** >

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Be EXAFS and publication
by Joshua Kas 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

Hi, This may be a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone is aware of EXAFS data on HCP Be. In particular we are looking for Debye-Waller Factors, so a publication would be great, but just data might work as well. Thanks, Josh Kas

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Question about deglitching EXAFS data
by Francesco Marafatto 07 Jul '15

07 Jul '15

Hello All, I have enjoyed this digest in the past and found it very helpful! I hope it may provide an answer to my question. I am collecting Mn EXAFS data out to k of 15 Å-1, and the data look fine. However, the monochromator (Si 111) has 5 strong 2-point glitches and 3 minor 1-point glitches in one of the regions that I am most interested in (k between 5 and 9 Å-1). My question relates to how many data points I can remove before influencing the data. In my previous experience I have removed 2 or 3 points but never more. I have read through the deglitching section of “XAFS for Everyone”, and think that I could oversample the EXAFS (with k steps of 0.03 Å-1 vs 0.05 Å-1), but most of the data have already been collected. Is there a rule of thumb about deglitching? In other words, is there a limit to the number of bad points I can eliminate for an EXAFS scan to k of 15 Å-1? Thanks and looking forward to hearing your thoughts, Francesco Francesco Femi Marafatto francesco.marafatto(a)unil.ch FNS PhD student, Environmental Geochemistry Laboratory IDyST - FGSE Bureau 3233 Gèopolis Université de Lausanne CH-1015 Lausanne T. +41 (0)21 692 4451

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Fwd: FEFF trouble help me please !!!!
by Bruce Ravel 07 Jul '15

07 Jul '15

Hi, I want to remind everyone that it is important to use the mailing list. I do not feel that I am obligated to answer questions about the software that come to me by any other channel, particularly when I do not have a personal relationship with the person asking the question. That said, I am forwarding this fellow's question to the mailing list and providing an answer. Thitipong, this is a case of GIGO. According to Acta Cryst. (1972). B28, 3102-3103 (the reference I found for Cr23C6): The crystal structure of chromium carbide, C r 2 3 C 6 , has been described as cubic, space group Fm3m, 4Cr (I) in (a) (000), 8Cr (II) in (c) (l-lq:), 48Cr (III) in (h) (Oxx), x= 0.165, 32Cr (IV) in (f) (xxx), x=0.385, 24C in (e) (x00), x=0-275 (Westgren, 1933) on the basis of X-ray single crystal and powder diffraction data. We have confirmed this structure and determined the atom positions more precisely by a neutron diffraction study of a powder sample. Using those coordinates, I have no problem running atoms and feff. The structure is a bit strange -- I guess this is more like a metal than a carbide -- but it seems consistent with the paper after a cursory inspection. According to http://www.crystallography.net/cod/1009019.html, the space group for Cr7C3 is P M C N. Atoms and feff run fine with this input data. Some hints on asking questions that so you'll get the answers you are looking for: http://bruceravel.github.com/demeter/pods/bugs.pod.html http://bruceravel.github.com/demeter/pods/help.pod.html B -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: FEFF trouble help me please !!!! Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 04:25:57 +0000 Resent-From: bruce.ravel(a)nist.gov Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 11:33:12 +0700 From: Thitipong Po-Kloy <thitipong_37(a)hotmail.com> To: bruce.ravel(a)nist.gov <bruce.ravel(a)nist.gov> Hi Bruce , My name is Thitipong . I have trouble about FEFF program and believes you can help me. Now I am doing "XANES simulation" Cr23C6 and Cr7C3 . So , when I run FEFF program - it report TWO ATOMS VERY CLOSE TOGETHER . How can I fix it ? This it Data of atom Cr23C6 title name : Cr23C6 title formula : Cr23C6 space F M 3 M a=10.6599 b=10.6599 c=10.6599 rmax = 10 core=Cr1 atom Cr 0 0 0 Cr1 Cr 0.25 0.25 0.25 Cr2 Cr 0.385 0.385 0.385 Cr3 Cr 0 0 0.340 Cr4 C 0.276 0.276 0.276 C1 and Cr7C3 title name : Cr7C3 title formula : Cr7C3 space P M C M a=7.0149 b=12.1530 c=4.5320 rmax = 10 rpath=6 core=Cr1 atom Cr 0.064 0.811 0.056 Cr1 Cr 0.250 0.626 0.057 Cr2 Cr 0.250 0.206 0.250 Cr3 Cr 0.250 0.416 0.261 Cr4 Cr 0.065 0.021 0.250 Cr5 C 0.250 0.562 0.459 C1 C 0.029 0.342 0.028 C2 If there is any other way please let me know. Thank You , Thitipong -- Bruce Ravel ------------------------------------ bravel(a)bnl.gov National Institute of Standards and Technology Synchrotron Science Group at NSLS-II Building 535A Upton NY, 11973 Homepage: http://bruceravel.github.io/home/ Software: https://github.com/bruceravel Demeter: http://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/

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