Hi Bruce, Here are some snapshots of my screen. As you may see, no error messages in the terminal and no OK button. The snapshots can be a little bit misleading because the cursor is in fact running (little wheel rolling and rolling on). Everything is gray and I cannot do anything else than closing the "data columns" window, which allows me to take control over, but without any file loaded. Claire PS: Don't pay attention to the quality of the data, they are ugly. :-) On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Bruce Ravel wrote:

Claire,

Can you take a screenshot and post that?  I'd like to see what you are talking about.

Also, are any error messages written to the screen when you start Athena from a terminal window?

B

On Wednesday, July 14, 2010 04:20:09 pm Claire Gervais wrote:

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Hello,

You are right, this is exactly by googling that I have found that I was not alone to have this problem!

I did change the fonts to have all windows entirely visible, but it did not improve. Still stuck with no OK in view. Indeed, it seems that the application waits for me.

I am in Gnome, but I don't think it's the point, otherwise it would work under Windows in Virtualbox, no...? I am not an expert in GUI however.

Claire

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Claire,

Please use the mailing list.  That way, others can find solutions to problems by doing a google search.

Is your problem related to question 13 at

  http://cars9.uchicago.edu/ifeffit/FAQ/HoraeQuestions

Are you a KDE user? The "everything is grey" could be a kwin visual cue that the application is waiting for input that you cannot find because the column selection dialog is off the bottom of the screen.

B

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Hi Steve, Thanks for your help, I indeed tried what you have suggested but unfortunately without success. Otherwise, I have tried to update ubuntu (to version 10.04 Lucid), but it didn't help. I have also tried to install it on another 64bit computer and it worked without any problem. So could it come from the graphic card...? I feel stuck for the moment, and any new idea is welcome! Claire On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Price S.W.T. wrote:

Hi Claire,

Am not sure if there's something else happening with your install, but when I go to load a data file, until I hit ok to load it, Athena displays the "you have not used any memory yet" message along the bottom as no file is yet loaded (perhaps stating the obvious!).  I found on an old pc I used, the resolution was not high enough to display the ok button, but hitting return when the columns loaded did the job anyway. If you have been clicking on lots of other buttons in the data column window, keep hitting tab until the "clear reference channels" button is selected, hit it once more to then select the ok button (which you can't see) and then hit return.  Hopefully your file will load!

Of course, if there is something else the problem with your install this won't work.

Hope it helps,

Steve

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Hi Bruce,

Here are some snapshots of my screen. As you may see, no error messages in the terminal and no OK button. The snapshots can be a little bit misleading because the cursor is in fact running (little wheel rolling and rolling on).

Everything is gray and I cannot do anything else than closing the "data columns" window, which allows me to take control over, but without any file loaded.

Claire

PS: Don't pay attention to the quality of the data, they are ugly. :-)

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Bruce Ravel wrote:

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Claire,

Can you take a screenshot and post that?  I'd like to see what you are talking about.

Also, are any error messages written to the screen when you start Athena from a terminal window?

B

On Wednesday, July 14, 2010 04:20:09 pm Claire Gervais wrote:

...

Hello,

You are right, this is exactly by googling that I have found that I was not alone to have this problem!

I did change the fonts to have all windows entirely visible, but it did not improve. Still stuck with no OK in view. Indeed, it seems that the application waits for me.

I am in Gnome, but I don't think it's the point, otherwise it would work under Windows in Virtualbox, no...? I am not an expert in GUI however.

Claire

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...

Claire,

Please use the mailing list.  That way, others can find solutions to problems by doing a google search.

Is your problem related to question 13 at

  http://cars9.uchicago.edu/ifeffit/FAQ/HoraeQuestions

Are you a KDE user? The "everything is grey" could be a kwin visual cue that the application is waiting for input that you cannot find because the column selection dialog is off the bottom of the screen.

B

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Dear Bruce, You know what...? There are some times in which life could be much more simple if one would be a little bit more persevering... - I did try to move the window to see the bottom of it (it was actually my first trial, even before contacting you). But the OK button was not there. - I did try to reduce by 1pt all the fonts so that the window was just at the border of my screen. But the OK button was still not there. - After your email, I tried to reduce the fonts by 2pts which gives me a tiny tiny window, but ... with an OK button at the bottom! Sorry about all this story for a problem of window and font size, but I really thought that I made all things possible from my side. Thanks a LOT for your help! Claire On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Bruce Ravel wrote:

On Monday 19 July 2010 03:24:06 am Claire Gervais wrote:

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Thanks for your help, I indeed tried what you have suggested but unfortunately without success.

Otherwise, I have tried to update ubuntu (to version 10.04 Lucid), but it didn't help. I have also tried to install it on another 64bit computer and it worked without any problem. So could it come from the graphic card...?

I feel stuck for the moment, and any new idea is welcome!

Claire,

...

From the screenshots you sent last week, it does not seem that anything unexpectedly wrong is happening.  You are certainly suffering from the inelegant screen management in Athena -- a problem I have discussed many times on the mailing list and which is the root cause for the problem discussed in Q13 at http://cars9.uchicago.edu/ifeffit/FAQ/HoraeQuestions.

I am guessing that you are using a rather small laptop with a 16:9 aspect ratio -- that is wide and short compared to an old fashioned SVGA monitor.

I am surprised that you were unable to make everything fit on the screen by reducing the font sizes as described in the FAQ.  I fairly often see the problem of the column selection dialog being too tall for the screen at the default font size.  Reducing all the fonts by 1 or 2 point has always worked in the past in my observation.

The immediate work-aroudn I can think of off the top of my head is inelegant, but should work.  In the linux windows managers, there is usually a key/mouse combination that will move a window.  It usually involves clicking somewhere in the window while holding down the Alt key (although you may need to look into your window behavior configurations).  If you do so and drag the window up, that should expose the OK button by moving the top of the window above the top of the screen.  (That is, I am confident that the OK button is there, it is just off the bottom of the screen.)  That's annoying, certainly, but it should get you over the hurdle.

In the meantime, I will think about a better solution.

B

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