L-edge soft X-ray data in Artemis and Athena
Hi, I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data? Thanks -- Shoaib
You can process the data but the L3-edge for 1st row transition elements (Mn and Ni) is only separated by 10-15 eV from the L2 edge so EXAFS analysis is not possible. good luck, Chris ******************************** Christopher J. Patridge, PhD NRC Post Doctoral Research Associate Naval Research Laboratory Washington, DC 20375 Cell: 315-529-0501 On 4/11/2013 7:46 AM, Shoaib Muhammad wrote:
Hi, I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data? Thanks -- Shoaib
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I have never used Athena to work up soft x-ray data, but I assume it is
possible. But you run into issues of not having enough pre- or post-edge
data points to do a proper Athena-type normalization. Bruce and co. have
discussed this many times on this list. .
Beside this, fitting your early transition metal soft x-ray data "like
usual K-edge data" would make no sense. There is no EXAFS information in
this energy range (the L_3 and L_2 edges are only separated by 10-15 eV
depending on the edge) and these edges contain strong electron correlation
effects (multiplet effects), not reproduced with FEFF. You need crystal
field codes like deGroot's (http://www.anorg.chem.uu.nl/CTM4XAS/) and this
particular code does not fit your data, only produces a spectrum of X
transition metal in Y oxidation state in Z crystal field environment.
I hope this helps.
Rob Meulenberg
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Shoaib Muhammad
Hi,
I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data?
Thanks -- Shoaib
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Hi, in Athena you can still normalize data, plot together, etc, but due to that lines L2 and L3 are very closed you will observe no EXAFS oscillations. In opposite I use Athena and Artemis to analyse EXAFS on e.g. O K edge L edges for EXAFS are useful for mainly 5d and actined elements... regards kicaj W dniu 13-04-11 13:46, Shoaib Muhammad pisze:
Hi, I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data? Thanks -- Shoaib
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Hi all,
Can the EXAFS of the L1 edge of 3rd row transition elements be analyzed? I've never tried it, and the discussion so far has been for the L2 and L3 edges. I know there would be some interference from the EXAFS of the lower edges, but that's just a technical problem, and can be corrected for.
--Scott Calvin
Sarah Lawrence College
On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Dr. Dariusz A. Zając
Hi,
in Athena you can still normalize data, plot together, etc, but due to that lines L2 and L3 are very closed you will observe no EXAFS oscillations. In opposite I use Athena and Artemis to analyse EXAFS on e.g. O K edge L edges for EXAFS are useful for mainly 5d and actined elements...
regards kicaj
W dniu 13-04-11 13:46, Shoaib Muhammad pisze:
Hi,
I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data?
Thanks -- Shoaib
Here is a paper on overlapping L-edges that might be helpful.
Yuan
On 4/11/13 9:37 AM, "Scott Calvin"
Hi all,
Can the EXAFS of the L1 edge of 3rd row transition elements be analyzed? I've never tried it, and the discussion so far has been for the L2 and L3 edges. I know there would be some interference from the EXAFS of the lower edges, but that's just a technical problem, and can be corrected for.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Dr. Dariusz A. Zając
wrote: Hi,
in Athena you can still normalize data, plot together, etc, but due to that lines L2 and L3 are very closed you will observe no EXAFS oscillations. In opposite I use Athena and Artemis to analyse EXAFS on e.g. O K edge L edges for EXAFS are useful for mainly 5d and actined elements...
regards kicaj
W dniu 13-04-11 13:46, Shoaib Muhammad pisze:
Hi,
I am a research student and relatively new to XAFS. I have soft X-Ray L-edge data of Mn and Ni. Is it possible to process this data in Athena and then fit in Artemis like usual K-edge data?
Thanks -- Shoaib
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"Dr. Dariusz A. Zając"
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Christopher Patridge
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Ping, Yuan
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Robert Meulenberg
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Scott Calvin
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Shoaib Muhammad