Re: [Ifeffit] using the mail list archive for mac install
Hi Joel,
I ran into the problem that some people seem to have with Demeter on mac while upgrading to High Sierra. I found a fix on this mail list, but…
Yeah, Demeter on MacOS is a continuing challenge. Even when it can be installed, parts of the GUI interaction are pretty buggy (I believe this must be due to wxPerl on Mac). MacPorts seems to need a fair amount of attention and expects the end user to know Unix command line tools well enough to be able to run updates and understand and react to error messages. For sure, it is a useful resource for developers, but it seems like it is not really designed for deploying end-user software. Still , I don't know of a better alternative for getting Demeter working on MacOS. I've tried many of the alternatives, and wxPerl seems to be a real stumbling block for all of them.
1) I can’t download Template.pm from the archive (bin file that uncompresses to cpgz file that uncompresses back to a bin file…)
I think that the advice from Luke and Bruce back in April was to try to find and install version 1.47 of Text::Template. You might find this at https://metacpan.org/source/MSCHOUT/Text-Template-1.47/lib/Text and try unpacking and installing that. There may be a way to specify particular versions with the "cpan" program, but I do not know how to do it. I don't think we want "install old version of some library" to be a long term solution (this will break other things eventually), but it might work for you.
2) Matt mentions that he installed 0.9.26 from macports, but I see only 0.9.25 (stable & develop).
To clarify, in April I updated MacPorts to the latest versions, installed the packages for Demeter 0.9.25. Then I installed Demeter 0.9.26 from source code on top of that. That might also work , but it's probably more work than most folks would want to do. Cheers, --Matt
Am 11.07.2018 um 00:44 schrieb Matt Newville
: Hi Joel,
I ran into the problem that some people seem to have with Demeter on mac while upgrading to High Sierra. I found a fix on this mail list, but…
Yeah, Demeter on MacOS is a continuing challenge. Even when it can be installed, parts of the GUI interaction are pretty buggy (I believe this must be due to wxPerl on Mac). MacPorts seems to need a fair amount of attention and expects the end user to know Unix command line tools well enough to be able to run updates and understand and react to error messages. For sure, it is a useful resource for developers, but it seems like it is not really designed for deploying end-user software.
Still, I don't know of a better alternative for getting Demeter working on MacOS. I've tried many of the alternatives, and wxPerl seems to be a real stumbling block for all of them.
1) I can’t download Template.pm from the archive (bin file that uncompresses to cpgz file that uncompresses back to a bin file…)
I think that the advice from Luke and Bruce back in April was to try to find and install version 1.47 of Text::Template. You might find this at https://metacpan.org/source/MSCHOUT/Text-Template-1.47/lib/Text
and try unpacking and installing that. There may be a way to specify particular versions with the "cpan" program, but I do not know how to do it. I don't think we want "install old version of some library" to be a long term solution (this will break other things eventually), but it might work for you.
2) Matt mentions that he installed 0.9.26 from macports, but I see only 0.9.25 (stable & develop).
To clarify, in April I updated MacPorts to the latest versions, installed the packages for Demeter 0.9.25. Then I installed Demeter 0.9.26 from source code on top of that. That might also work, but it's probably more work than most folks would want to do.
Cheers,
—Matt
Just to let you know: For other reasons, I am using fink instead of MacPorts on my Mac and I tried to create a package description with that for larch, but got stuck with some of the wx… stuff. However, sooner or later, I will have another go at it. Fink has a similar barrier as macPorts, as both need an installation of Xcode. At least, there is a GUI for the installation of packages. Michael Schindler
Hi all,
I must admit that couldn’t cut it in terms of wrangling MacPorts and opted to run a windows virtual machine on my Mac and use Demeter in on the virtual machine.
This can be somewhat awkward but for the most part I’ve found this to work well enough.
Cheers,
Simon
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On 11 Jul 2018, at 4:17 pm, Schindler Karl-Michael
Am 11.07.2018 um 00:44 schrieb Matt Newville
mailto:newville@cars.uchicago.edu>: Hi Joel,
I ran into the problem that some people seem to have with Demeter on mac while upgrading to High Sierra. I found a fix on this mail list, but…
Yeah, Demeter on MacOS is a continuing challenge. Even when it can be installed, parts of the GUI interaction are pretty buggy (I believe this must be due to wxPerl on Mac). MacPorts seems to need a fair amount of attention and expects the end user to know Unix command line tools well enough to be able to run updates and understand and react to error messages. For sure, it is a useful resource for developers, but it seems like it is not really designed for deploying end-user software.
Still, I don't know of a better alternative for getting Demeter working on MacOS. I've tried many of the alternatives, and wxPerl seems to be a real stumbling block for all of them.
1) I can’t download Template.pmhttp://Template.pm from the archive (bin file that uncompresses to cpgz file that uncompresses back to a bin file…)
I think that the advice from Luke and Bruce back in April was to try to find and install version 1.47 of Text::Template. You might find this at https://metacpan.org/source/MSCHOUT/Text-Template-1.47/lib/Texthttps://metacpan.org/source/MSCHOUT/Text-Template-1.47/lib/Text
and try unpacking and installing that. There may be a way to specify particular versions with the "cpan" program, but I do not know how to do it. I don't think we want "install old version of some library" to be a long term solution (this will break other things eventually), but it might work for you.
2) Matt mentions that he installed 0.9.26 from macports, but I see only 0.9.25 (stable & develop).
To clarify, in April I updated MacPorts to the latest versions, installed the packages for Demeter 0.9.25. Then I installed Demeter 0.9.26 from source code on top of that. That might also work, but it's probably more work than most folks would want to do.
Cheers,
—Matt
Just to let you know: For other reasons, I am using fink instead of MacPorts on my Mac and I tried to create a package description with that for larch, but got stuck with some of the wx… stuff. However, sooner or later, I will have another go at it. Fink has a similar barrier as macPorts, as both need an installation of Xcode. At least, there is a GUI for the installation of packages. Michael Schindler _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.govmailto:Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit Unsubscribe: http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/options/ifeffit
Hi all. Maybe some remember that I am working on installing and using xraylarch using fink, a package manager for macOS similar to MacPorts or Homebrew. Today I am happy to announce a major breakthrough: The first successful start of larch_gui. If anyone is interested in following the progress or even contributing, this is the my github branch of the fink/fink-distribution: https://github.com/fink/fink-distributions/tree/kamischi-xraylarch-new The next steps will be: - create macOS app-bundles within fink. - update the dependent python packages to recent versions. - add optional dependent python packages - enable and debug tests of xraylarch and dependent python packages - general debugging and staying up-to-date. Karl-Michael Schindler P.S. anyone attending ECOSS in Aarhus?
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Matt Newville
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Schindler Karl-Michael
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Simon James