Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 223, Issue 9

Dear Matts, Thank you for helping Shinhyo sort out his saving problem. Now we can do science! I appreciate your help (as someone who is less technologically inclined I was pretty lost as to suggestions). It was kind of you to take the time to work with him. Thank you, Liane Liane Moreau, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Chemistry Washington State University 509-335-6073 ________________________________ From: Ifeffit on behalf of ifeffit-request@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 7:26 PM To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: Ifeffit Digest, Vol 223, Issue 9 Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinf... or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ifeffit-request@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov You can reach the person managing the list at ifeffit-owner@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ifeffit digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: IFEFFIT file saving issue (Bang, Shinhyo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 02:25:50 +0000 From: "Bang, Shinhyo" To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="euc-kr" Dear Matthew, I can certainly save the files onto a folder directly under the C: (although I have to point out that I had/have only English alphabets in the folder names). Thank you very much. I appreciate your support. Best, Shinhyo ________________________________ ?? ??: Matthew Marcus ?? Ifeffit ?? ??: 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 7:14 ?? ??: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov ??: Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue This probably isn't relevant, but Desktop is actually a folder under c:. On my computer, it's C:\Users\MAMarcus. I see that 'other Matt' concurs with this and seems to be suggesting that your username may have non-ASCII characters. I'm guessing Korean. Try making a new folder under C:\ with only ASCII characters in the name. mam On 9/7/2021 6:25 PM, Bang, Shinhyo wrote:

Dear Matthew,

I tried to save a project to "Desktop" which had no parent folder, but the same problem occurred. I think the non-ASCII character is not the only problem. Still, I can save onto a usb from now on. Thank you very much.

Best, Shinhyo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *?? ??:* Matt Newville ?? Ifeffit *?? ??:* 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 6:06 *?? ??:* XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit *??:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue Hi Shinhyo,

Again, I would ask to check that the folder you are having trouble saving to has any non-ASCII characters. For sure, ifeffit and demeter are not going to be able to handle folder or file names with non-ASCII characters.

Larch is slightly better at this - it can work with files with names in non-ASCII text encodings. To be clear, the situation with Larch is still not ideal, especially on Windows, because a) the base installation folder can contain only ASCII characters, and cannot contain any spaces (apparently this is some problem with other libraries or possibly some other variation on point b). b) the concept of "localization" on Windows machines is sort of a mess and many libraries (at least, from Python) don't handle this very well. For Larch, we recently had to explicitly set locale to be "simple C / ASCII". That sort (or should!?) mean that you can read/write files and folders with non-ASCII characters, though I'm not certain that will work for all character encoding sets. It's possible this will get better with time, but it's not something that we can solve.

For ifeffit / demeter there is simply no hope for non-ASCII text to ever be handled.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:45 PM Bang, Shinhyo mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu> wrote:

Dear Matthew,

I tried to save the project onto a usb, and it WORKed! Thank you so much for your help.

Best, Shinhyo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *?? ??:* Matthew Marcus mailto:mamarcus@lbl.gov> ?? Ifeffit mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> *?? ??:* 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 4:11 *?? ??:* ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov> *??:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue There are other characters that Windoze doesn't like in filenames: |\/*":<>? mam

On 9/7/2021 3:58 PM, Matt Newville wrote: > Hi Shinhyo, Liane, > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM Bang, Shinhyo mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu > mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu>> wrote: > > Thank you for the response. > The OS is Windows 10. > In addition to the symptom that was described aforehand, Athena > freezes when I try to save the file. > > > Is it possible that the folder or file you are saving to has a space or > other non-ASCII character in it? I believe that non-ASCII characters > are known to cause problems. > Can you check whether you can save a file anywhere (maybe even the > top-level "C:\" folder)? > > --Matt > > _______________________________________________ > Ifeffit mailing list > Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov mailto:Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinf... https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinf...

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