Dear Matts,

Thank you for helping Shinhyo sort out his saving problem. Now we can do science! I appreciate your help (as someone who is less technologically inclined I was pretty lost as to suggestions). It was kind of you to take the time to work with him.

Thank you,

Liane

Liane Moreau, PhD
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Department of Chemistry
Washington State University
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   1. Re: IFEFFIT file saving issue (Bang, Shinhyo)


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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 02:25:50 +0000
From: "Bang, Shinhyo" <shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu>
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue
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Dear Matthew,

I can certainly save the files onto a folder directly under the C: (although I have to point out that I had/have only English alphabets in the folder names).
Thank you very much. I appreciate your support.

Best,
Shinhyo


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?? ??: Matthew Marcus <mamarcus@lbl.gov> ?? Ifeffit <ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
?? ??: 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 7:14
?? ??: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
??: Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue

This probably isn't relevant, but Desktop is actually a folder under c:.
On my computer, it's C:\Users\MAMarcus.  I see that 'other Matt' concurs
with this and seems to be suggesting that your username may have
non-ASCII characters.  I'm guessing Korean.   Try making a new folder
under C:\ with only ASCII characters in the name.
        mam

On 9/7/2021 6:25 PM, Bang, Shinhyo wrote:
> Dear Matthew,
>
> I tried to save a project to "Desktop" which had no parent folder, but
> the same problem occurred. I think the non-ASCII character is not the
> only problem.
> Still, I can save onto a usb from now on. Thank you very much.
>
> Best,
> Shinhyo
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *?? ??:* Matt Newville <newville@cars.uchicago.edu> ?? Ifeffit
> <ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
> *?? ??:* 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 6:06
> *?? ??:* XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
> *??:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue
> Hi Shinhyo,
>
> Again, I would ask to check that the folder you are having trouble
> saving to has any non-ASCII characters. For sure, ifeffit and demeter
> are not going to be able to handle folder or file names with non-ASCII
> characters.
>
> Larch is slightly better at this - it can work with files with names in
> non-ASCII text encodings.  To be clear, the situation with Larch is
> still not ideal, especially on Windows, because
>     a) the base installation folder can contain only ASCII characters,
> and cannot contain any spaces (apparently this is some problem
>         with other libraries or possibly some other variation on point b).
>     b) the concept of "localization" on Windows machines is sort of a
> mess and many libraries (at least, from Python) don't handle this very
> well.  For Larch, we recently had to explicitly set locale to be "simple
> C / ASCII".  That sort (or should!?) mean that you can read/write files
> and folders with non-ASCII characters, though I'm not certain that will
> work for all character encoding sets.  It's possible this will get
> better with time, but it's not something that we can solve.
>
> For ifeffit / demeter there is simply no hope for non-ASCII text to ever
> be handled.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:45 PM Bang, Shinhyo <shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu
> <mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Matthew,
>
>     I tried to save the project onto a usb, and it WORKed! Thank you so
>     much for your help.
>
>     Best,
>     Shinhyo
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *?? ??:* Matthew Marcus <mamarcus@lbl.gov
>     <mailto:mamarcus@lbl.gov>> ?? Ifeffit
>     <ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
>     *?? ??:* 2021? 9? 7? ??? ?? 4:11
>     *?? ??:* ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>     <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
>     *??:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue
>     There are other characters that Windoze doesn't like in filenames:
>     |\/*":<>?
>              mam
>
>     On 9/7/2021 3:58 PM, Matt Newville wrote:
>     > Hi Shinhyo, Liane,
>     >
>     > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM Bang, Shinhyo <shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu <mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu>
>     > <mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu <mailto:shinhyo.bang@wsu.edu>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Thank you for the response.
>     >     The OS is Windows 10.
>     >     In addition to the symptom that was described aforehand, Athena
>     >     freezes when I try to save the file.
>     >
>     >
>     > Is it possible that the folder or file you are saving to has a space or
>     > other non-ASCII character in it?  I believe that non-ASCII characters
>     > are known to cause problems.
>     > Can you check whether you can save a file anywhere (maybe even the
>     > top-level "C:\" folder)?
>     >
>     > --Matt
>     >
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