Hi, Bruce
For the first question, after I answered 'yes'. Artemis will run well
without problems. But after running fits for four (sometimes even three)
times, it will crash again. And the next cycle begins.
As for reproducible, only after I finished the updates, it will crash every
four or three fits, no matter what fits I am running. The fits paths
included might be around 100.
By the way, I did not notice if Artemis posts a message or not before. But
this time, it do pop up a message at the first time I run the fit (not at
the time it crashes). This is the message I got: # This file created at
11:01:54 on 27 April, 2004
# using Windows XP, perl 5.006001, Tk 800.024, and Ifeffit 1.2.5
The following message was trapped by Artemis on a SIGWARN:
ArtemiswarnC:\Program Files\Ifeffit\horae\stash\ARTEMIS.TRAPCODE(0x3525f58)
at artemis line 1491
main::__ANON__('Tk::Error: Can\'t locate utf8.pm in @INC (@INC
contains: C:\DOCU...') called at blib\lib\Tk.pm (autosplit into
blib\lib\auto\Tk\Error.al) line 402
Tk::Error('MainWindow=HASH(0x394d430)', 'Can\'t locate utf8.pm in
@INC (@INC contains: C:\DOCUME~1\VINCEH...', '[\&main::__ANON__]', '(menu
invoke)') called at /PerlApp/Tk.pm line 340
eval {...} called at /PerlApp/Tk.pm line 340
Tk::MainLoop() called at artemis line 1627
Here attached is the file.
Thanks a lot,
Aria
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:04:59 -0400
From: Bruce Ravel
I began to use the old version of Artemis in last September, and did not update till days ago. But after the installation, Artemis crashed very often. After running four fits, it will crash without any reasons (I did not close the graphics window). And when I restart the Artemis, sometimes it will give out information like: 'There seems to be a large number of abandoned project folders. This might be due to past program crashes or other past problems. I can clean these up at this time.' I am not sure if it happens to others. I work in Windows XP platform.
You seem to be reporting two different problems here, but have not given me enough information to do anything useful about either one. 1. What happens when you answer yes to the question about cleaning up abandoned project folders? Does Artemis crash again right after that? How about the next time you start Artemis? 2. It is really not adequate just to say "Artemis crashed very often." If you do not give me enough information to reproduce the problem myself, then I cannot fix whatever is causing the crash. Indeed, I cannot even begin to search for the problem because you haven't told me anything about it. Please read this page carefully: http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/bugs.html and the consider trying your bug report again. If Artemis beeps and posts a message to the echo area about a TRAP file, please send me the specified file along with a description of how you got to the situation. B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 405 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 2268 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 4642 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 11:11 am, Aria wrote:
Hi, Bruce
For the first question, after I answered 'yes'. Artemis will run well without problems. But after running fits for four (sometimes even three) times, it will crash again. And the next cycle begins.
As for reproducible, only after I finished the updates, it will crash every four or three fits, no matter what fits I am running. The fits paths included might be around 100.
By the way, I did not notice if Artemis posts a message or not before. But this time, it do pop up a message at the first time I run the fit (not at the time it crashes). This is the message I got: # This file created at 11:01:54 on 27 April, 2004 # using Windows XP, perl 5.006001, Tk 800.024, and Ifeffit 1.2.5 The following message was trapped by Artemis on a SIGWARN:
ArtemiswarnC:\Program Files\Ifeffit\horae\stash\ARTEMIS.TRAPCODE(0x3525f58) at artemis line 1491 main::__ANON__('Tk::Error: Can\'t locate utf8.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:\DOCU...') called at blib\lib\Tk.pm (autosplit into blib\lib\auto\Tk\Error.al) line 402 Tk::Error('MainWindow=HASH(0x394d430)', 'Can\'t locate utf8.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:\DOCUME~1\VINCEH...', '[\&main::__ANON__]', '(menu invoke)') called at /PerlApp/Tk.pm line 340 eval {...} called at /PerlApp/Tk.pm line 340 Tk::MainLoop() called at artemis line 1627
The information you sent me suggests a problem in trying to handle text that uses non-ascii characters. Unfortunately the trap file artemis generated does not give me enough information to make a good guess as to the problem, but I have a guess. Are you using non-ascii characters (which is almost, but not quite, the same thing as characters that are not found on a normal english keyboard) in any of your data files, your feff or atoms input files, in any of your parameters, in the project journal, or on the properties page? This is the kind of thing that would happen if a non-native english speaker wanted to use text in his or her own language in one of the places I asked about. If the text you use does not have an ascii representation and requires use of unicode, that might make trouble for Artemis. It is surely a reasonable thing to want to make notes in a data file header or artemis' journal using one's own language. Indeed, that is so important that I should make sure that Artemis allows that. Of course, that might not be the problem at all. Has anyone else seen this problem? Aria, can you send me a project file that will demonstrate this problem along with explicit instructions for how to make it happen? B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 405 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 2268 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 4642 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Hi Bruce, This is very reminiscent of problems I and my students have been having, but I have not had time to try to track down the reproducibility and behavior, and figured sending you a message "Artemis crashes a lot" was not terribly helpful. Based on your preliminary diagnosis, I do, however, have a thought. Are control characters non-Ascii for this purpose? Because I probably have "ctrl-s" scattered all over the place. That happens because within the journal ctrl-s does not save, but rather tries to enter that character into the journal, leading to a little box. Likewise, I used to get that behavior when I was in certain places on the GDS screen, although I can't seem to get that to happen now--maybe the new version fixed that somehow? But the journal does still have that behavior. I'm using Windows XP and Artemis 0.7.003. --Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
The information you sent me suggests a problem in trying to handle text that uses non-ascii characters. Unfortunately the trap file artemis generated does not give me enough information to make a good guess as to the problem, but I have a guess.
Are you using non-ascii characters (which is almost, but not quite, the same thing as characters that are not found on a normal english keyboard) in any of your data files, your feff or atoms input files, in any of your parameters, in the project journal, or on the properties page? This is the kind of thing that would happen if a non-native english speaker wanted to use text in his or her own language in one of the places I asked about. If the text you use does not have an ascii representation and requires use of unicode, that might make trouble for Artemis.
It is surely a reasonable thing to want to make notes in a data file header or artemis' journal using one's own language. Indeed, that is so important that I should make sure that Artemis allows that.
Of course, that might not be the problem at all.
Has anyone else seen this problem?
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 12:13 pm, Scott Calvin wrote:
This is very reminiscent of problems I and my students have been having, but I have not had time to try to track down the reproducibility and behavior, and figured sending you a message "Artemis crashes a lot" was not terribly helpful.
A very true statement.
Based on your preliminary diagnosis, I do, however, have a thought. Are control characters non-Ascii for this purpose? Because I probably have "ctrl-s" scattered all over the place. That happens because within the journal ctrl-s does not save, but rather tries to enter that character into the journal, leading to a little box. Likewise, I used to get that behavior when I was in certain places on the GDS screen, although I can't seem to get that to happen now--maybe the new version fixed that somehow? But the journal does still have that behavior.
Thanks, Scott. That gives me something to look for. A question for Scott and Aria, is this problem correlated either with reading the built-in documentation or writing a report in the form of an excel spreadsheet? B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 405 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 2268 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 4642 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
At 01:46 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
A question for Scott and Aria, is this problem correlated either with reading the built-in documentation or writing a report in the form of an excel spreadsheet?
Hi Bruce, I don't check the built-in documentation very often, and was not even aware a report in the form of a spreadsheet was possible. I guess if I read the documentation, I might know more about the capabilities! :) At any rate, I don't think either of those contribute to the problem in my case. --Scott
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 02:24 pm, Scott Calvin wrote:
At 01:46 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
A question for Scott and Aria, is this problem correlated either with reading the built-in documentation or writing a report in the form of an excel spreadsheet?
Hi Bruce,
I don't check the built-in documentation very often, and was not even aware a report in the form of a spreadsheet was possible. I guess if I read the documentation, I might know more about the capabilities! :) At any rate, I don't think either of those contribute to the problem in my case.
Actually I had a brain fart. *Athena* has built in documentation and spreadsheet reports -- not Artemis. The original question was about Artemis, not Athena. I should never rely upon my brain to o my thinking for me. B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 405 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 2268 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 4642 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
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