Dear Matt, Many thanks for your answer yesterday. Since I am a novice, I am now still puzzled to use this software. I just want to process some XANES data for selenium speciation identification. As attached in the annex(three samples and four references, some have analyzed for several times). When open SixPack, I can't import any file from which attached in the enclosure. I don't know whether it is the problem with the format of the data. Thus, I thought probably I need to open the Athena, while it prompted: Cann't execute Grnd.exe.... Sincerely wish to obtain guidance from you. Kind regards Mingliang
Mingliang,
... but you still have not answered the questions I asked earlier.
I'm willing to try to help, but you are not helping me. Answer those
questions, and try to explain more precisely what you mean by "When
open SixPack" and "open Athena".
--Matt
2009/11/11 康明亮
Dear Matt, Many thanks for your answer yesterday. Since I am a novice, I am now still puzzled to use this software. I just want to process some XANES data for selenium speciation identification. As attached in the annex(three samples and four references, some have analyzed for several times). When open SixPack, I can't import any file from which attached in the enclosure. I don't know whether it is the problem with the format of the data. Thus, I thought probably I need to open the Athena, while it prompted: Cann't execute Grnd.exe.... Sincerely wish to obtain guidance from you. Kind regards Mingliang
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Dear Matt, I am intended to process some XANES data for selenium speciation identification. In the enclosure, I attached the raw data, which have four reference data(averaging in case that have measured for several times) and three samples. I have followed the procedure you mentioned in your last answer. I double clicked Sixpack icon, and entered to the Samview interface, clicked Add file, selected a file from the attached, it prompted WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT. Theother function like Background Removal is the same case. I don't know whether it is the problem with the format of the data. AS I double clicked the Athena icon on the desktop, it prompted: Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window. In case you still can't get what I mean, would you pls open the enclosure and help me to process it? It is only a little workload(Four reference and three samples). I just want to know which chemical attribute to the samples, FeSe, Se(0), FeSe2 or Se(IV). Thanks very much! Best regards Mingliang
Mingliang,
... but you still have not answered the questions I asked earlier. I'm willing to try to help, but you are not helping me. Answer those questions, and try to explain more precisely what you mean by "When open SixPack" and "open Athena".
--Matt
2009/11/11 康明亮
: Dear Matt, Many thanks for your answer yesterday. Since I am a novice, I am now still puzzled to use this software. I just want to process some XANES data for selenium speciation identification. As attached in the annex(three samples and four references, some have analyzed for several times). When open SixPack, I can't import any file from which attached in the enclosure. I don't know whether it is the problem with the format of the data. Thus, I thought probably I need to open the Athena, while it prompted: Cann't execute Grnd.exe.... Sincerely wish to obtain guidance from you. Kind regards Mingliang
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Dear Matt,
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
Thank you!
Best regards
Mingliang
在2009-11-12,"Matt Newville"
.... would you pls open the enclosure and help me to process it? It is only a little workload(Four reference and three samples). I just want to know which chemical attribute to the samples, FeSe, Se(0), FeSe2 or Se(IV).
No.
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I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply? Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work. --Matt
Mingliang,
There's nothing wrong with the data (I opened one of the files), so at this
point I suggest you reinstall IFEFFIT, or answer Matt's questions in the
hope of understanding and solving your problem (without the re-install).
-Richard
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Newville
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply?
Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work.
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Dear Richard,
Thanks for your reply.
To be honest, I don't know what question she/he has asked. As I have said , I have followed the procedure which she/he suggested. But, I still can't import the raw data for processing. I double clicked runner.exe, selected Sixpack, entered to the Samview interface, clicked Add file, and selected a file from the attached, it prompted WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT. Theother function like Background Removal is the same case. That's the problem I encountered. As I selected Athena, it prompted: Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window. I have re-installed the programme, but it still won't work. Since you have said there's nothing wrong with the data, I really don't know how to solve this problem.
Best regards
Mingliang
Sorry for the trouble. It's a little hard to tell what's gone wrong,
but here are some hints: The icon to run athena (and others) simply
runs the program "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit "bin" folder (usually
C:\Program Files\Ifeffit\bin). This program sets the path and other
environmental variables so that GrWnd.exe can be run.
Some suggestions:
- Try clicking on "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit bin folder. A
simple selection box should pop up and you should be able to choose
Athena, Artemis, etc.
- Trying clicking on GrWnd.exe in the Ifeffit bin folder. A
window should pop up.
- The installation was not complete, or got moved somehow.
Reinstalling might help.
If the solution isn't obvious from those, let us know what happened
for each of these steps.
在2009-11-12,"Richard Mayes"
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply? Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work. --Matt _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Are you trying to open the "data process.rar" file (the very same file you
sent to Matt) with Sixpack? Athena or Sixpack can not do that, you must
unpack the file to access the individual files it contains.
To solve the "*Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window"*
problem, follow the suggestions from Matt posted below (which is the initial
response you recieved from your very first post - read the last sentence
very closely, that is the question you have yet to answer; without these
answers no one can help you):
Some suggestions:
- Try clicking on "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit bin folder. A
simple selection box should pop up and you should be able to choose
Athena, Artemis, etc.
- Trying clicking on GrWnd.exe in the Ifeffit bin folder. A
window should pop up.
- The installation was not complete, or got moved somehow.
Reinstalling might help.
If the solution isn't obvious from those, let us know what happened
for each of these steps.
2009/11/11 康明亮
Dear Richard, Thanks for your reply. To be honest, I don't know what question she/he has asked. As I have said , I have followed the procedure which she/he suggested. But, I still can't import the raw data for processing. I double clicked* runner.exe*, selected *Sixpack*, entered to the *Samview* interface, clicked *Add file*, and selected a file from the attached, it prompted* WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT.* The* *other function like *Background Removal *is the same case. That's the problem I encountered. As I selected Athena, it prompted: *Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window. *I have re-installed the programme, but it still won't work. Since you have said there's nothing wrong with the data,* *I really don't know how to solve this problem. Best regards Mingliang
Sorry for the trouble. It's a little hard to tell what's gone wrong, but here are some hints: The icon to run athena (and others) simply runs the program "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit "bin" folder (usually C:\Program Files\Ifeffit\bin). This program sets the path and other environmental variables so that GrWnd.exe can be run. Some suggestions: - Try clicking on "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit bin folder. A simple selection box should pop up and you should be able to choose Athena, Artemis, etc. - Trying clicking on GrWnd.exe in the Ifeffit bin folder. A window should pop up. - The installation was not complete, or got moved somehow. Reinstalling might help. If the solution isn't obvious from those, let us know what happened for each of these steps.
在2009-11-12,"Richard Mayes"
写道: Mingliang,
There's nothing wrong with the data (I opened one of the files), so at this point I suggest you reinstall IFEFFIT, or answer Matt's questions in the hope of understanding and solving your problem (without the re-install).
-Richard
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Newville
wrote:
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply?
Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work.
--Matt _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
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Dear Richard,
Acctually, I opened one of the decompression files from the attached "data process.rar" with Sixpack, then I encountered the problem that WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT.
Here, I have snapped each step and attached in the enclosure. Hope I have answer these questions.
Thank you!
Best regards
Mingliang
在2009-11-12,"Richard Mayes"
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply? Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work. --Matt _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit 看陆川杨幂新片《琴棋书画》,品网易3D国韵网游《天下贰》 _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Mingliang,
When I opened the same file from your picture in Sixpack, I get the same
error about the filename characters, but when I click ok to acknowledge the
error, I get the import dialogue and it appears that I would be able to
import the data anyway (and I did not get the error in background function
information that looks like a Python error and suggests things are
missing).
As for the Grnd.exe problem, it sounds like something is getting moved
around or not being copied to your computer during the installation, and
unfortunately I can't help you with that other than to suggest a reinstall.
wish I could be more help, but this is as far as I can go
-Richard
2009/11/12 康明亮
Dear Richard, Acctually, I opened one of the decompression files from the attached "data process.rar" with Sixpack, then I encountered the problem that *WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT.* Here, I have snapped each step and attached in the enclosure. Hope I have answer these questions. Thank you! Best regards Mingliang
在2009-11-12,"Richard Mayes"
写道: Are you trying to open the "data process.rar" file (the very same file you sent to Matt) with Sixpack? Athena or Sixpack can not do that, you must unpack the file to access the individual files it contains.
To solve the "*Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window"* problem, follow the suggestions from Matt posted below (which is the initial response you recieved from your very first post - read the last sentence very closely, that is the question you have yet to answer; without these answers no one can help you):
Some suggestions: - Try clicking on "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit bin folder. A simple selection box should pop up and you should be able to choose Athena, Artemis, etc. - Trying clicking on GrWnd.exe in the Ifeffit bin folder. A window should pop up. - The installation was not complete, or got moved somehow. Reinstalling might help. If the solution isn't obvious from those, let us know what happened for each of these steps.
2009/11/11 康明亮
Dear Richard, Thanks for your reply. To be honest, I don't know what question she/he has asked. As I have said , I have followed the procedure which she/he suggested. But, I still can't import the raw data for processing. I double clicked* runner.exe*, selected *Sixpack*, entered to the *Samview* interface, clicked *Add file *, and selected a file from the attached, it prompted* WARNING! Filename contain characters not compatible with IFEFFIT.* The* *other function like *Background Removal *is the same case. That's the problem I encountered. As I selected Athena, it prompted: *Cann't execute Grnd.exe to open the graphics window. *I have re-installed the programme, but it still won't work. Since you have said there's nothing wrong with the data, * *I really don't know how to solve this problem. Best regards Mingliang
Sorry for the trouble. It's a little hard to tell what's gone wrong, but here are some hints: The icon to run athena (and others) simply runs the program "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit "bin" folder (usually C:\Program Files\Ifeffit\bin). This program sets the path and other environmental variables so that GrWnd.exe can be run. Some suggestions: - Try clicking on "runner.exe" in the Ifeffit bin folder. A simple selection box should pop up and you should be able to choose Athena, Artemis, etc. - Trying clicking on GrWnd.exe in the Ifeffit bin folder. A window should pop up. - The installation was not complete, or got moved somehow. Reinstalling might help. If the solution isn't obvious from those, let us know what happened for each of these steps.
在2009-11-12,"Richard Mayes"
写道: Mingliang,
There's nothing wrong with the data (I opened one of the files), so at this point I suggest you reinstall IFEFFIT, or answer Matt's questions in the hope of understanding and solving your problem (without the re-install).
-Richard
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Matt Newville < newville@cars.uchicago.edu> wrote:
I am not mean you need to help me to process them, I just don't know why these data can't open in Sixpack or other programm. Is there any problem with the raw data? Wish to obtain guidance from you.
I have not looked at the data you sent. Did you expect I would? You have not answered to my original questions. At this point, I want you to tell me why do you keep posting questions to this list when you have not answered the questions in my original reply?
Explain this, then answer the original questions, and then we may be able to start helping you. We will not analyze your data, and we cannot help you unless you help us understand what does and does not work.
--Matt _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
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Mingliang, It's not exactly how I would have liked the answers, but the screenshots of the steps you performed does actually (at least implicitly) answer to some of the questions: 1) how are you starting Athena and Sixpack? You never actually said this, before, bbut you are using runner.exe. Good. Now we know that the enviromental variables are set correctly. 2) what happens when you click on grwnd.exe? You did not answer, but grwnd.exe does run. 3) Sixpack does launch, and the file browser works up to being able to import files. 4) Athena seems to crash because a Grwnd Plot panel cannot be initialized, even though the Grwnd frame is running. I have seen problems similar to each of these, on different computers. I think they are not related to one another. For your Sixpack problem, like Richard, I also get the same message, but the "Generic File Read" comes up anyway. Question: Do you see the "Generic File Read" come up? Furthermore, if I rename the file from Se(0)-reference\X150013.1d.txt to Se\X1500013.1d.txt The file is read fine. I suspect the '-' sign and parentheses in the folder name are the problem. Given your screenshots, I might also suspect there could be non-ASCII characters in some of the folder names. Ifeffit cannot deal with non-ASCII characters in file names or file content. Non-ASCII characters in the data files would be a more serious problem, but these data (converted from EPICS MDA files) are fine for that. But the path name could cause problems too. You may try moving to something as simple as C:\SE\X150013.dat Question: Does the file read ok if you change the path name? For Athena, you see it crash, but it does launch grwnd.exe. It does not put a plot panel into grwnd.exe, so Athena cannot plot and crashes. First, try this: From the running grwnd.exe select "File->Open", browse to C:\Program Files\IFeffit\share\athena_testpattern.gwd, and open this file. Question: Does a plot appear? If so, leave that grwnd.exe running, and relauch Athena. Question: Does Athena now run? Please try all of these steps and tell us IN WORDS what happens. --Matt
Dear, I want to consult why I can not open the XANES raw data(like the attached file Na2SeO3.dat) by Athena on my laptop(Windows system). It prompt that : coulldn't read...(See the attached picture. file). Wish to obtain help from you.Thanks very muchBest wishesMingliang
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 10:31:12 am 康明亮 wrote:
Dear, I want to consult why I can not open the XANES raw data(like the attached file Na2SeO3.dat) by Athena on my laptop(Windows system). It prompt that : coulldn't read...(See the attached picture. file). Wish to obtain help from you.Thanks very muchBest wishesMingliang
Hi Mingliang, I am able to import those data. My best guess for the problem is that either Athena or Ifeffit is having toruble processing the filename, which in your case contains unicode characters. Try moving your data into a folder that does not have any Chinese characters in its name. For instance, try moving it to C:\Documents and Settings\yishi\data\Na2SeO3.dat rather than its current location. I hope that solves the problem. As for the trouble with non-western characters ... well, I apologize for that. Our codes most definately should work without regard to what language you speak. I will try to work on that in the future. Hope that helps, B P.S. Because the first column contains a index of data points, Athena mistakenly thinks that your data are in units of keV. You will need to explicitly select eV units as well as selecting the second column as the energy column when you first import one of these files. Good luck. -- Bruce Ravel ------------------------------------ bravel@bnl.gov National Institute of Standards and Technology Synchrotron Methods Group at NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2 Building 535A Upton NY, 11973 My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Dear Bruce,
Yes, as I change the file location, the problem was solved. Thanks very much for youe help.
Best wishes
Mingliang
在2010-01-20?23:47:11,"Bruce?Ravel"?
On?Wednesday?20?January?2010?10:31:12?am?康明亮?wrote:
?Dear,?I?want?to?consult?why?I?can?not?open?the?XANES?raw?data(like?the ??attached?file?Na2SeO3.dat)?by?Athena?on?my?laptop(Windows?system).?It ??prompt?that?:?coulldn't?read...(See?the?attached?picture.?file).?Wish?to ??obtain?help?from?you.Thanks?very?muchBest?wishesMingliang ?
Hi?Mingliang,
I?am?able?to?import?those?data.??My?best?guess?for?the?problem?is?that either?Athena?or?Ifeffit?is?having?toruble?processing?the?filename, which?in?your?case?contains?unicode?characters.
Try?moving?your?data?into?a?folder?that?does?not?have?any?Chinese characters?in?its?name.??For?instance,?try?moving?it?to?
??C:\Documents?and?Settings\yishi\data\Na2SeO3.dat
rather?than?its?current?location.
I?hope?that?solves?the?problem.??As?for?the?trouble?with?non-western characters?...?well,?I?apologize?for?that.??Our?codes?most?definately should?work?without?regard?to?what?language?you?speak.??I?will?try?to work?on?that?in?the?future.
Hope?that?helps, B
P.S.?Because?the?first?column?contains?a?index?of?data?points,?Athena mistakenly?thinks?that?your?data?are?in?units?of?keV.??You?will?need to?explicitly?select?eV?units?as?well?as?selecting?the?second?column as?the?energy?column?when?you?first?import?one?of?these?files.??Good luck.
--?
?Bruce?Ravel??------------------------------------?bravel@bnl.gov
?National?Institute?of?Standards?and?Technology ?Synchrotron?Methods?Group?at?NSLS?---?Beamlines?U7A,?X24A,?X23A2 ?Building?535A ?Upton?NY,?11973
?My?homepage:????http://xafs.org/BruceRavel ?EXAFS?software:?http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/ _______________________________________________ Ifeffit?mailing?list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Bruce's guess is correct: Athena cannot open files with non-ASCII characters in the file or path name. --Matt
Hi I didnt have a problem energy column = 2 energy units eV data type xmu.dat signal 2nd and 3rd column cheers darek -----Original Message----- From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of kangml@163.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:31 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: [Ifeffit] consultation Dear, I want to consult why I can not open the XANES raw data(like the attached file Na2SeO3.dat) by Athena on my laptop(Windows system). It prompt that : coulldn't read...(See the attached picture. file). Wish to obtain help from you. Thanks very much Best wishes Mingliang
Hi sorry, I found a mistake in my post - signals 3rd and 4rth column... but as Bruce wrote - change a folder name to ASCII... cheers darek -----Original Message----- From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Zajac, Dariusz A. Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:54 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] consultation Hi I didnt have a problem energy column = 2 energy units eV data type xmu.dat signal 2nd and 3rd column cheers darek -----Original Message----- From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of kangml@163.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:31 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: [Ifeffit] consultation Dear, I want to consult why I can not open the XANES raw data(like the attached file Na2SeO3.dat) by Athena on my laptop(Windows system). It prompt that : coulldn't read...(See the attached picture. file). Wish to obtain help from you. Thanks very much Best wishes Mingliang
participants (5)
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Bruce Ravel
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Matt Newville
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Richard Mayes
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Zajac, Dariusz A.
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