Dear users in Ifeffit forum, I'm working at a cathode material represented by xLi2MnO3.(1-x)LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co). This material can be described as a solid solution between Li2MnO3 and LiMO2. The main phase is the LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co), which shows a trigonal crystal structure (R-3m). The integrated phase is the Li2MnO3, which exhibits a monoclinic structure (C2/m). What would be the right way to perform the EXAFS fitting using Artemis for the multi-phase materials ? I was thinking creating two crystal structure set using ATOMS, and perform feff calculation for each, and then choose scattering path from each atom set. I wonder whether this is an appropriate approach ? and how can I apply the ratio of each phase (let's say x is 0.6) in the fitting process ? Thank you in advance ! Kind Regards Taehoon
Hi Taehoon: There are probably several ways of doing the modeling but it all depends critically on what question you are trying to answer. Once you have identified this, the modelling path will become clearer. In general though, yes, you can make two ATOMS models and use paths from both. Carlo On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Taehoon Kim wrote:
Dear users in Ifeffit forum, I'm working at a cathode material represented by xLi2MnO3.(1-x)LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co). This material can be described as a solid solution between Li2MnO3 and LiMO2. The main phase is the LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co), which shows a trigonal crystal structure (R-3m). The integrated phase is the Li2MnO3, which exhibits a monoclinic structure (C2/m). What would be the right way to perform the EXAFS fitting using Artemis for the multi-phase materials ? I was thinking creating two crystal structure set using ATOMS, and perform feff calculation for each, and then choose scattering path from each atom set. I wonder whether this is an appropriate approach ? and how can I apply the ratio of each phase (let's say x is 0.6) in the fitting process ? Thank you in advance ! Kind Regards Taehoon
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On 07/29/2013 10:49 AM, Taehoon Kim wrote:
I was thinking creating two crystal structure set using ATOMS, and perform feff calculation for each, and then choose scattering path from each atom set. I wonder whether this is an appropriate approach ? and how can I apply the ratio of each phase (let's say x is 0.6) in the fitting process ?
Hi Taehoon, That's the standard recomendation. Here are two excellent papers by familiar names on this mailing list. While neither one is quite like your specific problem, both address the topic of running Feff many times and choosing appropriate scattering paths from each calculation for the fit. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0016-7037(02)00947-X http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevB.66.224405 In any case, the trick is to add the paths together with the correct weighting. In your case, you'll need to use a multiplicative factor in the S02 math expression to reflect the fact that you have x% of Li2MnO3 and (1-x)% of LiMO2. Good luck. B -- Bruce Ravel ------------------------------------ bravel@bnl.gov National Institute of Standards and Technology Synchrotron Science Group at NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2 Building 535A Upton NY, 11973 Homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel Software: https://github.com/bruceravel
Yes Taehoon, that is the right approach.
Just multiply the S02 of each path by the ratio of that phase that is present. For example, the S02 field for a path from one phase might read "amp * x" where amp is the overall S02 and x is as you specified below. Then the S02 field for paths from the other phase would be "amp * (1-x)".
--Scott Calvin
Sarah Lawrence College
On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Taehoon Kim
I think that from mathematic point of view creating one so2 variable and second x, as weight, limited within (0,1) is the same as both fits has 2 independent so2 variables, one for each phase. Of course your description is practical if we know the amount of phases. However, it comes another question - are EXAFS paths good distinguishable? regards kicaj W dniu 13-07-29 17:03, Scott Calvin pisze:
Yes Taehoon, that is the right approach.
Just multiply the S02 of each path by the ratio of that phase that is present. For example, the S02 field for a path from one phase might read "amp * x" where amp is the overall S02 and x is as you specified below. Then the S02 field for paths from the other phase would be "amp * (1-x)".
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Taehoon Kim
mailto:lucky.hoon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Dear users in Ifeffit forum,
I'm working at a cathode material represented by xLi2MnO3.(1-x)LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co). This material can be described as a solid solution between Li2MnO3 and LiMO2. The main phase is the LiMO2 (M = Mn, Ni, and Co), which shows a trigonal crystal structure (R-3m). The integrated phase is the Li2MnO3, which exhibits a monoclinic structure (C2/m).
What would be the right way to perform the EXAFS fitting using Artemis for the multi-phase materials ?
I was thinking creating two crystal structure set using ATOMS, and perform feff calculation for each, and then choose scattering path from each atom set. I wonder whether this is an appropriate approach ? and how can I apply the ratio of each phase (let's say x is 0.6) in the fitting process ?
Thank you in advance !
Kind Regards Taehoon
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"Dr. Dariusz A. Zając"
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Bruce Ravel
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Carlo Segre
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Scott Calvin
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Taehoon Kim