Thanks everyone for the helpful comments! I'll go with exporting to Origin.
A final question. I am now a Mac user, is there a good alternative to Origin?
Best,
- Eva
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM,
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:13:17 -0400 From: Eva Vanamee
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:25:01 -0400 From: Scott Calvin
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:51:36 -0400 From: Jason Gaudet
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And to do this, use the Artemis Plot dialog box to generate the chart you want (e.g. the data and fit in magnitude R-space), click the "Save Next Plot to File" button at the very bottom of the dialog box, and click the correct plot button at the top (e.g. R). This lets you save the plot as an ASCII file.
-Jason
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Scott Calvin
wrote: Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Igor
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From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Eva Vanamee
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:51 PM
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
Subject: [Ifeffit] plotting
Thanks everyone for the helpful comments! I'll go with exporting to Origin.
A final question. I am now a Mac user, is there a good alternative to Origin?
Best,
- Eva
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM,
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:13:17 -0400 From: Eva Vanamee
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:25:01 -0400 From: Scott Calvin
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
_______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:51:36 -0400 From: Jason Gaudet
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And to do this, use the Artemis Plot dialog box to generate the chart you want (e.g. the data and fit in magnitude R-space), click the "Save Next Plot to File" button at the very bottom of the dialog box, and click the correct plot button at the top (e.g. R). This lets you save the plot as an ASCII file.
-Jason
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Scott Calvin
wrote: Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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I'll second Igor Pro.
Jeff
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On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:57 PM, "Bare, Simon R"
Igor
Simon
-----Original Message----- From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Eva Vanamee Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:51 PM To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] plotting
Thanks everyone for the helpful comments! I'll go with exporting to Origin. A final question. I am now a Mac user, is there a good alternative to Origin?
Best,
- Eva
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM,
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:13:17 -0400 From: Eva Vanamee
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:25:01 -0400 From: Scott Calvin
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
_______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:51:36 -0400 From: Jason Gaudet
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] generating high res figures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And to do this, use the Artemis Plot dialog box to generate the chart you want (e.g. the data and fit in magnitude R-space), click the "Save Next Plot to File" button at the very bottom of the dialog box, and click the correct plot button at the top (e.g. R). This lets you save the plot as an ASCII file.
-Jason
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Scott Calvin
wrote: Hi Eva,
Demeter is not intended to be used to produce publication-quality figures. It's best to export the data, fits, etc., and then use a proper graphing program to generate figures. Even a spreadsheet will do in a pinch, although most of us use dedicated scientific graphing software.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Hi,
I'm in the happy stages of making figures. I'd like to know how to change figure legends, make high resolution figures from a fit, etc.
For instance: I saved the session file. Can I go back to a particular fit to make a figure or do I need to rerun it? Can I change the figure legends? I used sample 1 and I want to give it a different name Can I use special characters (e.g. Greek letters)? Can I adjust the resolution for different formats (talk vs. publication)?
I am running Demeter 0.9.9.9 under XP.
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Eva
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Hi, Sorry for coming in late in this conversation. I won't disagree that Origin or Igor Pro can be used to make lovely publication-quality graphics -- those are fine choices. The poor quality of the graphics in the older versions of Ifeffit / Horae was always been a disappointment to me. It's certainly reasonable to say that exporting to another program is necessary, but I believe the latest versions should and do have much higher quality graphics. Larch certainly has much better graphics than Ifeffit. See for example: http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/xafs/xafsft.html#examples-forward-xafs-fo... In the on-line docs, the graphics may look mediocre because they are scaled, but if you click on them you will see the PNG file created directly by saving the image from the Plot window (or cut with Ctrl-C and pasted directly into presentation software). Another example (from the feffit chapter): http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/_images/feffit_feo_r.png shows the Greek characters and mathematical rendering, generated using latex notation. Depending on what you need, these may publication quality graphs,and they can be copied directly from the Plotting windows into other applications (for example, Ctrl-C to copy to clipboard works). The axis labels (plain text or latex), colors, symbols, line widths, and so on can be adjusted from a Plot Configuration window after the plot is drawn, see http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/plotting/index.html#interactive-use-of-th... There are many things that cannot be done simply with these plots (figure-in-figure, complex stacking), but in principle, Larch can be used to generate any of the kinds of plots available from the matplotlib library, see http://matplotlib.org/gallery.html Of course, this does requires some scripting to make plots. There are other good, free choices for making high-quality graphics. As others have said, investing some time in learning how to make high quality graphics is worth the effort. Origin or Igor Pro are very good tools, and would be fine choices for learning and not very expensive. But please do not use Excel. It cannot make publication quality graphics. Cheers, --Matt
Matt is correct. The graphics in Larch are much better than the graphics in the old version of ifeffit.
I may go back to using the command line.
Jeff
On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Matt Newville
The poor quality of the graphics in the older versions of Ifeffit / Horae was always been a disappointment to me. It's certainly reasonable to say that exporting to another program is necessary, but I believe the latest versions should and do have much higher quality graphics. Larch certainly has much better graphics than Ifeffit. See for example: http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/xafs/xafsft.html#examples-forward-xafs-fo...
In the on-line docs, the graphics may look mediocre because they are scaled, but if you click on them you will see the PNG file created directly by saving the image from the Plot window (or cut with Ctrl-C and pasted directly into presentation software). Another example (from the feffit chapter): http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/_images/feffit_feo_r.png
shows the Greek characters and mathematical rendering, generated using latex notation. Depending on what you need, these may publication quality graphs,and they can be copied directly from the Plotting windows into other applications (for example, Ctrl-C to copy to clipboard works). The axis labels (plain text or latex), colors, symbols, line widths, and so on can be adjusted from a Plot Configuration window after the plot is drawn, see http://xraypy.github.com/xraylarch/plotting/index.html#interactive-use-of-th...
There are many things that cannot be done simply with these plots (figure-in-figure, complex stacking), but in principle, Larch can be used to generate any of the kinds of plots available from the matplotlib library, see http://matplotlib.org/gallery.html
Hi Eva,
Personally, I'm pretty happy with Pro Fit. It's a commercial product (like Origin) but is much cheaper. It's also got the stupidest name imaginable, since Google will assume you misspelled "profit." With that in mind the website is http://www.quansoft.com . If you're willing to spend more, Igor Pro is a good product.
--Scott Calvin
Sarah Lawrence College
P.S. Disclosure: I have no financial relationship with either software producer.
On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Eva Vanamee
Thanks everyone for the helpful comments! I'll go with exporting to Origin. A final question. I am now a Mac user, is there a good alternative to Origin?
Best,
- Eva
This list of alternatives is pretty near exhaustive:
http://alternativeto.net/software/originlab/
Although I personally use Origin.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Scott Calvin
Hi Eva,
Personally, I'm pretty happy with Pro Fit. It's a commercial product (like Origin) but is much cheaper. It's also got the stupidest name imaginable, since Google will assume you misspelled "profit." With that in mind the website is http://www.quansoft.com . If you're willing to spend more, Igor Pro is a good product.
--Scott Calvin Sarah Lawrence College
P.S. Disclosure: I have no financial relationship with either software producer.
On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Eva Vanamee
wrote: Thanks everyone for the helpful comments! I'll go with exporting to Origin. A final question. I am now a Mac user, is there a good alternative to Origin?
Best,
- Eva
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