Dear FEFF users, Hi, I am a beginner of FEFF6L. Usually depending on the manual provided by web site, I am managing to calculate spectrum, and there are too many difficulties...I would like to be advised from you, senior members. I have three questions. (1) I would like to control the temperature. In the manual, I see DEBYE 190 315 (Calculate Debye-Waller factors for Cu at 190 K??). Can I change the temperature simply by modifying the number "190"? Can I find a reference paper for this? (2) Where can I find Debye-Waller factors in the output files? (3) How can I change the ionic state? I would like to compare the output file, chi dat., between SF6 and SF6+ molecules. I hope I could have answers for my questions... Best wishes, Zin
Hi Zin, No one bit on this, so I'll respond. If you are using feff6l, then I presume you are interested in simulating or analyzing exafs rather than doing xanes calculation. If you are more interested in XANES, then my comments in this email won't make a lot of sense or, indeed, be particularly useful. And, if you are interested in the XANES, you should be using feff8 or feff9 rather than feff6. I have to question your decision to simulate the effect of sigma^2 at the level of feff. In my experience, you can do a much better job by using ifeffit and/or artemis to model the effect of sigma^2. The exact same correlated debye function is available in ifeffit/artemis, so at the very least you can do the same thing as what you seem to want to do. But ifeffit/artemis is way better because it gives you MUCH better control over how sigma^2 gets applied to the paths. Strictly speaking, the correlated Debye model is only applicable to a monoatomic material. That is not to say it is not a useful approximation in other materials, just that it is not strictly correct. In practice, you'll find that different kinds of scatterers need to be treated differently in a real exafs problem. Ifeffit/artemis gives you the tools to do so. Feff6l, by itself, does not. As for question #3, a trivial internet search will turn up the Feff6 document: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feff6+document In the document you find, you see that there is an ION keyword that claims to do what you want. Use this with extreme caution. In my experience, it has surprising and often unphysical results on the calculation. This isn't so surprising. In the exafs region, the photoelectron has enough kinetic energy that it is not so sensitive to the details of the potential surface. EXAFS really is an atomic structure tool -- while the XANES certainly tells you a lot about the local electronic structure, the exafs signal is mostly sensitive to where the atoms are and what kind they are. So, in short, each of your questions makes me worry that you are heading down the primrose path. B On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 05:31:35 pm YOON Zin Seok wrote:
Hi, I am a beginner of FEFF6L. Usually depending on the manual provided by web site, I am managing to calculate spectrum, and there are too many difficulties...I would like to be advised from you, senior members.
I have three questions. (1) I would like to control the temperature. In the manual, I see
DEBYE 190 315 (Calculate Debye-Waller factors for Cu at 190 K??).
Can I change the temperature simply by modifying the number "190"? Can I find a reference paper for this?
(2) Where can I find Debye-Waller factors in the output files?
(3) How can I change the ionic state? I would like to compare the output file, chi dat., between SF6 and SF6+ molecules.
I hope I could have answers for my questions...
-- Bruce Ravel ------------------------------------ bravel@bnl.gov National Institute of Standards and Technology Synchrotron Methods Group at NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2 Building 535A Upton NY, 11973 My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Hello I think that you want to calculate XANES. Feff6 donsn't offer XANES calculation. Bruce Ravel's talking is right and you have to change Feff6 to Feff8 or 9. Debye Temperature can be calculated by sigma^2 obtained from EXAFS. But you have to make fitting program code using Debye Temperature equation and measure your data in temperature dependence.
From: ziyo3998@jilau1.colorado.edu Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:31:35 -0700 To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] FEFF6L input keyword question
Dear FEFF users,
Hi, I am a beginner of FEFF6L. Usually depending on the manual provided by web site, I am managing to calculate spectrum, and there are too many difficulties...I would like to be advised from you, senior members.
I have three questions. (1) I would like to control the temperature. In the manual, I see
DEBYE 190 315 (Calculate Debye-Waller factors for Cu at 190 K??).
Can I change the temperature simply by modifying the number "190"? Can I find a reference paper for this?
(2) Where can I find Debye-Waller factors in the output files?
(3) How can I change the ionic state? I would like to compare the output file, chi dat., between SF6 and SF6+ molecules.
I hope I could have answers for my questions...
Best wishes,
Zin _______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
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Bruce Ravel
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JeongEunSuk
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YOON Zin Seok