Hello Drew, Thanks for your suggestions. I just checked my original data without normalization. The edge step is about 0.7 (see pic attached). I did the measurement in fluorescence mode at APS, beamline 12-BMB. What do you think about this pic? For the sample preparation, I think I need to mix UO2 with some other materials to dilute it. Do you have any suggestions on the matrix materials? Best, Ke
Sorry here is the picture!
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Ke Yuan
Hello Drew,
Thanks for your suggestions. I just checked my original data without normalization. The edge step is about 0.7 (see pic attached). I did the measurement in fluorescence mode at APS, beamline 12-BMB. What do you think about this pic?
For the sample preparation, I think I need to mix UO2 with some other materials to dilute it. Do you have any suggestions on the matrix materials?
Best, Ke
-- Ke Yuan PhD Candidate Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences 1100 North University Ave 3021 C.C Little University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI 48109-1005
Hi Ke,
Unfortunately, it looks like your data is showing the classic symptoms of self-absorption . The white line for UO2 is fairly pronounced, and should look like the attached picture.
Not sure on the setup at 12-BM-B, but next time ask if you could collect both fluorescence and transmission data at the same time. It can really save your behind.
You can dilute in whatever low Z compound you’d like, I think things like SiO2 and boron nitride are common because of their low Z. Graphite might work also. Powder smears on tape are pretty common because you can fold/unfold to vary the amount of material in the beam. (though one can’t manipulate those at the beamline with a dispersible rad powder like UO2.)
Best,
Drew
From: Ke Yuan [mailto:keyuan@umich.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:39 AM
To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov; Latta, Drew E
Subject: Re: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
Sorry here is the picture!
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Ke Yuan
Thank you!
Best,
Ke
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Latta, Drew E
Hi Ke,
Unfortunately, it looks like your data is showing the classic symptoms of self-absorption . The white line for UO2 is fairly pronounced, and should look like the attached picture.
Not sure on the setup at 12-BM-B, but next time ask if you could collect both fluorescence and transmission data at the same time. It can really save your behind.
You can dilute in whatever low Z compound you’d like, I think things like SiO2 and boron nitride are common because of their low Z. Graphite might work also. Powder smears on tape are pretty common because you can fold/unfold to vary the amount of material in the beam. (though one can’t manipulate those at the beamline with a dispersible rad powder like UO2.)
Best,
Drew
*From:* Ke Yuan [mailto:keyuan@umich.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:39 AM *To:* ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov; Latta, Drew E *Subject:* Re: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
Sorry here is the picture!
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Ke Yuan
wrote: Hello Drew,
Thanks for your suggestions. I just checked my original data without normalization. The edge step is about 0.7 (see pic attached). I did the measurement in fluorescence mode at APS, beamline 12-BMB. What do you think about this pic?
For the sample preparation, I think I need to mix UO2 with some other materials to dilute it. Do you have any suggestions on the matrix materials?
Best,
Ke
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Ke Yuan
PhD Candidate
Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences 1100 North University Ave 3021 C.C Little University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI 48109-1005
-- Ke Yuan PhD Candidate Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences 1100 North University Ave 3021 C.C Little University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI 48109-1005
Measuring U XAFS for UO2 in fluorescence is likely to not work well no matter how much you dilute it. There will greatly suppressed amplitudes of the XAFS amplitudes. For XANES, the fluorescence intensity will also be reduced quite a bit, giving and apparent edge shift to lower energy. A sample with the element exceeding 30 wt % more or less has to be measured in transmission or electronic yield. This is pretty well-documented in the literature (the effect is called "over absorption" or sometimes "self absorption") and pretty much any tutorial or overview you can find. It's been discussed on this forum a number of times. --Matt
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