Hi folks, A couple weeks ago, Scott sent me a wonderful collection of Artemis project files which serve as a nifty tutorial on how to use Artemis. To quote from Scott's README file: "The tutorial is meant for people who understand the rudiments of EXAFS analysis, but have little practical experience. In other words, I assume you know what a "path" is, but are unsure of how to know what paths to include in a fit." For anyone just starting out using Artemis or anyone who would like some tips and hints from an expert user, Scott's tutorial should prove very helpful, indeed. I have started a page of user contributed materials. Here's the URL: http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/contrib.html Scott's tutorial is there. I'd certainly enjoy having more things to put on that page.... Regards, Bruce -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 222 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 5947 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 1697 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Hi Bruce, I thought you were on vacation - get the heck out of there!! Best wishes for your trip to Nepal if that happens. Dean PS: I have noted to send you some files for Linear combination fitting testing - will do so in December.
Hi Bruce and Everyone,
I have started a page of user contributed materials. Here's the URL:
http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/contrib.html
Scott's tutorial is there.
I'd certainly enjoy having more things to put on that page....
First, thanks for the contribution, Scott! That's really great. Another approach might be to make a set of web pages that many users could directly contribute to, using a wiki or other web-based content-management software that doesn't require direct intervention to the web-server machine (that is, content is edited and saved solely through web pages). This could have the potential advantages of letting Scott (and/or anyone else) update tutorials and docs at their discretion and of allowing one to make contributions from an internet cafe in Nepal (without loss of generality!). Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society. Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it? --Matt
Matt: Since I am effectively the sysadmin for the International Xafs Society server, I would be happy to coordinate. We are in the process of migrating the server to a pair of "new" machines and this should be taken care of within a few weeks. These are not really state of the art machines but much better than the one that is currently there. Whatever I can do to help (including setting up a wiki if that is what is best) pelase let me know. Carlo On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Matt Newville wrote:
Hi Bruce and Everyone,
I have started a page of user contributed materials. Here's the URL:
http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/contrib.html
Scott's tutorial is there.
I'd certainly enjoy having more things to put on that page....
First, thanks for the contribution, Scott! That's really great.
Another approach might be to make a set of web pages that many users could directly contribute to, using a wiki or other web-based content-management software that doesn't require direct intervention to the web-server machine (that is, content is edited and saved solely through web pages). This could have the potential advantages of letting Scott (and/or anyone else) update tutorials and docs at their discretion and of allowing one to make contributions from an internet cafe in Nepal (without loss of generality!).
Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society.
Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it?
--Matt
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On Wednesday 26 November 2003 02:49 pm, Matt Newville wrote:
Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society.
Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it?
A wiki is definately an excellent tool for documentation. I think a site using Slash (the engine used by slashdot.org and other sites) or some similar discussion and content management system would be an excellent idea and could serve most every function currently served by the IXS, but in a much more dynamic and interactive fashion. Slash can have many topics, so one could imagine WinXAS and GNXAS topics as well as Ifeffit, Feff, and general XAS topics. It's configurable for the user, so each person can look at as many or as few topics as he finds interesting. Content can be presented and dicussions can be carried out. It would really be quite a remarkable resource for the XAS community. Of course, I think it would be nice if someone other than Matt or I volunteered to set up and administer a discussion and content management system ...... B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 222 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 5947 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 1697 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Bruce, Carlo, Thanks for the immediate feedback. On the technical side, I run the web pages for CARS on a dual Xeon server - it seems pretty fast. I've played with Zope/Plone a little: it's a very nice 'content management' tool. I've been thinking about setting this up on the CARS machines for awhile, and would be willing to use this an excuse to really try to get it to work. Then again, this might be an ideal job for the IXS (The user info, software catalog, and error analysis pages would benefit from having outside people directly edit their own info). I'm willing to try this here at CARS, but I'm happy to have someone else do it too! My main question has been would such a thing get used? I guess one way to find out is to set it up and see if it gets used. My sense is now that it would get used (especially with Scott's zip file of ZnO examples, and remembering that Francois sent wavelet software and Corwin Booth sent self-absorption software earlier this year too). OK, I will put this on my to-do list. Somewhat unrelated (but since I'm clogging your mailbox), I should have a much better 'Windows Updater' with Bruce's latest programs ready in a week or so, and a "real installer" for Mac OS X 10.3 sometime in the next few weeks as well. --Matt
Matt: I have an interest in trying out zope as well for other IIT uses. I have not yet spent much time figuring out how to set it up and make it work effectivley though. Although the IXS server will not be as good as the CARS one, I believe that it could handle the load. One possibility is that Matt and I get together and discuss it, then come up with a reasonable plan. Carlo On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Matt Newville wrote:
Bruce, Carlo,
Thanks for the immediate feedback. On the technical side, I run the web pages for CARS on a dual Xeon server - it seems pretty fast. I've played with Zope/Plone a little: it's a very nice 'content management' tool. I've been thinking about setting this up on the CARS machines for awhile, and would be willing to use this an excuse to really try to get it to work.
Then again, this might be an ideal job for the IXS (The user info, software catalog, and error analysis pages would benefit from having outside people directly edit their own info). I'm willing to try this here at CARS, but I'm happy to have someone else do it too!
My main question has been would such a thing get used? I guess one way to find out is to set it up and see if it gets used. My sense is now that it would get used (especially with Scott's zip file of ZnO examples, and remembering that Francois sent wavelet software and Corwin Booth sent self-absorption software earlier this year too). OK, I will put this on my to-do list.
Somewhat unrelated (but since I'm clogging your mailbox), I should have a much better 'Windows Updater' with Bruce's latest programs ready in a week or so, and a "real installer" for Mac OS X 10.3 sometime in the next few weeks as well.
--Matt
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