Re: [Ifeffit] Very large exafs amplitude in collected data - cause unknown (Jason Alvino)
Hi Matt, As I pointed out before, in the attached zipfile, there is a file called "AuNP_anatase_Au.D" which has the data in two columns of energy vs mu, comma separated underneath the "EV RAW" header. It also already has all the bad channels removed from the averaged data. Cheers, Jason Hi Jason,
Hi all,
There seemed to have been abit of a misunderstanding with the data
sorry about that. I was not really sure what format was going to be best to share with people, I thought the raw data would have been useful so that people were able to see all the channels.
I have attached a data file from average (AuNP_anatase_Au.D) which has
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jason F. Alvino
wrote: format, the data in columns of energy vs u(E).
The second data format (.ssrl) has data in the following columns;
1 = real time clock 2 = Mono angle (requested) 3 = Energy (eV) 4 = I0 5 = I1 6 = I2 7-9 = blank 10-44 - fluor channels (SCA) 45-79 - ICRs for the det element
I have attached these two data sets to this new email.
I still am completely unwilling to work with that file. Send a file with no more than 5 columns, and do not expect anyone to add columns together or know how you would use the different columns in your file. It's best to send a file with only energy and xmu.
Now to try to answer some of the questions that have been asked of the data.
The samples are chemically synthesised Au8, Au9, Au11 clusters protected by PPh3 ligands. We then support these samples on various oxides, in this case anatase at a % weight loading of 0.17% cluster/anatase. The loading is typically quite low as we discovered that higher loadings lead to greater levels of Au agglomeration. The samples can then undergo various treatments, in an attempt to remove the protective ligand groups, however harsher treatments can also lead to agglomeration of the Au clusters. The currently attached example is of Au9 on anatase at 0.17% loading after being calcined at 200 C under an oxygen atmosphere. There was potentially an issue initially about releasing all the info of the samples which has now been sorted out.
"Perhaps there is some sort of coupling in the signal chain between the Ge detector and IO" - I wouldn't really know how to start with that one, however I could have another chat with the beamline scientists over this and see if they may have some ideas as to the cause.
We were actually analysing some of the data as we went, but unfortunately not all of it. However this problem of large k2 or k3 weighted exafs amplitude only occurs in samples that we know begin to agglomerate into larger particles of gold (this has been determined from a similar study we have done at the SXR). We have multiple samples that display this behaviour.
The values I get for sigma2 when trying to fit using XFIT are 2 or greater, if I maintain debye waller factors greater than 0.001 and maintain sensible coordination numbers <=12.
The samples were cooled to 12 K using a cryostat, however the Au foil data is not cooled.
That alone could explain the difference.
--Matt
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Hi Jason: On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Jason F. Alvino wrote:
Hi Matt,
As I pointed out before, in the attached zipfile, there is a file called "AuNP_anatase_Au.D" which has the data in two columns of energy vs mu, comma separated underneath the "EV RAW" header.
It also already has all the bad channels removed from the averaged data.
Just doing a quick fit of your data with k 2-15 and R 1-6 and a bulk gold model (all paths up to 8 A), gives an excellent fit with 5 parameters (R ~ 2%). It basically looks like bulk Gold at low temperatures with an amplitude reduction factor of 0.77 which is not too small. You are correct that the sigma squared values are samll but that is to be expected at 12K. I used an isotropic expansion/contraction parameter which fits to -0.010, again consistent with thermal expansion at low temperatures. It looks like you indeed have agglomeration because this data does not seem to be from nanoparticles of gold. Cheers, Carlo -- Carlo U. Segre -- Duchossois Leadership Professor of Physics Director, Center for Synchrotron Radiation Research and Instrumentation Illinois Institute of Technology Voice: 312.567.3498 Fax: 312.567.3494 segre@iit.edu http://phys.iit.edu/~segre segre@debian.org
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