Thank you Matt. George On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Matt Newville wrote:

Hi George,

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 5:57 PM, George Sterbinsky wrote:

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Hello,

Can anyone explain why the values given by the ion chamber utility in Hephaestus differ from those given for a 10 cm He filled ion chamber in figure 3.14 of Grant Bunker's Intro to XAFS book at high energy? For instance, figure 3.14 indicates an absorption fraction of ~3E-7 at 40 keV, whereas Hephaestus indicates 2E-4 at the same energy.

I believe the difference is probably in whether one considers only the photo-electric cross-section or also includes the incoherent and coherent scattering. For very light elements at high enough energy, the incoherent scattering becomes much more likely than the photo-electric absorption,

Using the Elam et al tables, give (with mu in cm^2/gr):

larch> mu_elam('He', 40000.0, kind='total') 0.1763091369476893 larch> mu_elam('He', 40000.0, kind='photo') 0.00025649564143021724

The question then becomes how are you using this value. To estimate what fraction of the 40 keV X-ray intensity will exit a 10 cm ion chamber filled with He, use the total attenuation. But to estimate the photo-current generated in the ion chamber from that beam, I think you should use the photo-electric cross-section only.

Hope that helps, or that someone else has better insight,

--Matt

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