Hi , I'm trying to help a collegue who would like to use FEFF to simulate X-ray absorption spectra for a single ion (i.e. Mn+2, Mn+3, Mn+4...) through the Mn L3/L2 edge. Since this is quite different from using FEFF for EXAFS like I'm used to... I could really use some help in figuring out how to accomplish this. We were also trying to figure out a way to remove the background from his experimental absorption spectra -- can Athena do this (or does Athena only work on EXAFS spectra)? If not, does anyone do this type of thing and have suggestions? Thanks!!! Sincerely, Kristine Witkowski Northwestern University
Kristine, This is a difficult thing to do. Assuming I read your question correctly. I believe that you are trying to calculate the XANES from a Mn2+, Mn3+, etc, ion. The only way that I have been able to get reasonable results is to accurately calculate the XANES with FEFF using a couterion in its correct position. This has led to some very large calculations on my part. The ION card in FEFF is not terribly effective which is too bad, but I understand the difficulty. I would almost suggest that it be removed. I have done many calculations for Mn compounds that I have been working on over the last couple of years and am pretty happy with the experimental/ theoretical agreement that I have been getting, lately. This may have been a better question for the feffusers mailing list. Jeff Terry IIT On Jan 22, 2004, at 3:28 PM, k-kupiecki@northwestern.edu wrote:
Hi ,
I'm trying to help a collegue who would like to use FEFF to simulate X-ray absorption spectra for a single ion (i.e. Mn+2, Mn+3, Mn+4...) through the Mn L3/L2 edge. Since this is quite different from using FEFF for EXAFS like I'm used to... I could really use some help in figuring out how to accomplish this.
We were also trying to figure out a way to remove the background from his experimental absorption spectra -- can Athena do this (or does Athena only work on EXAFS spectra)? If not, does anyone do this type of thing and have suggestions?
Thanks!!! Sincerely,
Kristine Witkowski Northwestern University
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On Thursday 22 January 2004 04:28 pm, k-kupiecki@northwestern.edu wrote:
We were also trying to figure out a way to remove the background from his experimental absorption spectra -- can Athena do this (or does Athena only work on EXAFS spectra)? If not, does anyone do this type of thing and have suggestions?
I'm a little confused. Could you be more explicit about what kind of data you are talking about? In general, though, if the problem of removing background from data can be expressed in the terms of the autobk algorithm, that is removing the low frequency Fouirer components and leaving the high frequency ones, then probably Athena will handle is ok. You could always just read the data in and see what happens. ;-) B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- ravel@phys.washington.edu Code 6134, Building 3, Room 222 Naval Research Laboratory phone: (1) 202 767 5947 Washington DC 20375, USA fax: (1) 202 767 1697 NRL Synchrotron Radiation Consortium (NRL-SRC) Beamlines X11a, X11b, X23b National Synchrotron Light Source Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Dear Kristine, FEFF is not set up to calculate single Mn ions. However, you could try to simulate this approximately by taking a Mn cluster, varying the Fermi energy (which adjusts the ionicity) and plotting only the atomic-like backgound mu_0 (col 5 in xmu.dat). Unfortunately, for Mn and other transition elements there are large "local field effects," i.e., screening of the x-ray field at the L_23 edge, which cause the L3/L2 ratio to vary. For this reason independent electron calculations are not likely to be reliable for such transition elements. For details, see e.g., ``Dynamic screening effects in x-ray absorption spectra," A.\ L. Ankudinov A.\ I. Nesvizhskii, and J. J. Rehr, Phys. Rev. B. {\bf67}, 115120 (2003). Also the absorption of the Mn will depend strongly on the environment. Thus it's important to know what material the Mn is embedded in. Cheers, John Rehr
Hi ,
I'm trying to help a collegue who would like to use FEFF to simulate X-ray absorption spectra for a single ion (i.e. Mn+2, Mn+3, Mn+4...) through the Mn L3/L2 edge. Since this is quite different from using FEFF for EXAFS like I'm used to... I could really use some help in figuring out how to accomplish this.
We were also trying to figure out a way to remove the background from his experimental absorption spectra -- can Athena do this (or does Athena only work on EXAFS spectra)? If not, does anyone do this type of thing and have suggestions?
Thanks!!! Sincerely,
Kristine Witkowski Northwestern University
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