help: can I use ifeffit to predict chi?
hi, Can anyone tell me whether I can use ifeffit to do this job? I want to know the % change in chi when the molecule have 3% change in radius? All I have is just the crystal struture of gamma-Fe2O3, which means I can only get the Feff. How can I introduce 3% change in redius so that I can get the difference of chi? Can anyone help me? Tanks a lot. TaiYen Chen 979-739-7772 Department of Chemistry Texas A&M University P.O. Box 30012 College Station, TX 77842-3012 Visit us on the web at http://www.chem.tamu.edu
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 21:21:59 Tai-Yen Chen wrote:
hi, Can anyone tell me whether I can use ifeffit to do this job?
I want to know the % change in chi when the molecule have 3% change in radius? All I have is just the crystal struture of gamma-Fe2O3, which means I can only get the Feff. How can I introduce 3% change in redius so that I can get the difference of chi? Can anyone help me? Tanks a lot.
Hi TaiYen, Since you are asking about using Ifeffit, I presume that you are interested in changes in the EXAFS spectrum rather than the XANES. There are a number of ways you might approach this problem. Probably the best way of doing so would be to do a proper fit to measured data so that you can get a good measure of things like sigma^2 and e0. Then, using the results of the fit, modify the deltaR parameters for each path used in the fit to be 3% larger. Then simply add up the paths using the fitted values for sigma^2, e0, and so on. You can also do something similar without actually doing a fit to data. Use Artemis or ifeffit itself to increase R for each path and simply sum the paths without using fitted values for sigma^2 and so on. The easiest way of doing so would be to set deltaR for each path equal to "0.03*reff". That will expand the length of each path by 3%, thanks to the magic of the special "reff" parameter in Ifeffit. Another way of doing this (and a decent way of doing so for a XANES calculation) would be to use Feff's rmultiplier keyword: http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/feff/wiki/index.php?title=RMULTIPLIER HTH, B -- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- bravel@bnl.gov National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
Hi, Bruce
Thanks for the valuable information. I have tried the
sum of pathes method to do the estimation.
But it seems like not to accurtate compared to the data I
found in the paper.
So, I want to go back to the the proper fit fo find out
poper sigma^2 and eo.
But I don't have any numeric chi data for gamma-Fe2O3. Do
you have any idea where I may get these
information? Thanks for all the help.
Best Regard!!
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:38:35 -0400
Bruce Ravel
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 21:21:59 Tai-Yen Chen wrote:
hi, Can anyone tell me whether I can use ifeffit to do this job?
I want to know the % change in chi when the molecule have 3% change in radius? All I have is just the crystal struture of gamma-Fe2O3, which means I can only get the Feff. How can I introduce 3% change in redius so that I can get the difference of chi? Can anyone help me? Tanks a lot.
Hi TaiYen,
Since you are asking about using Ifeffit, I presume that you are interested in changes in the EXAFS spectrum rather than the XANES.
There are a number of ways you might approach this problem. Probably the best way of doing so would be to do a proper fit to measured data so that you can get a good measure of things like sigma^2 and e0. Then, using the results of the fit, modify the deltaR parameters for each path used in the fit to be 3% larger. Then simply add up the paths using the fitted values for sigma^2, e0, and so on.
You can also do something similar without actually doing a fit to data. Use Artemis or ifeffit itself to increase R for each path and simply sum the paths without using fitted values for sigma^2 and so on. The easiest way of doing so would be to set deltaR for each path equal to "0.03*reff". That will expand the length of each path by 3%, thanks to the magic of the special "reff" parameter in Ifeffit.
Another way of doing this (and a decent way of doing so for a XANES calculation) would be to use Feff's rmultiplier keyword: http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/feff/wiki/index.php?title=RMULTIPLIER
HTH, B
-- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- bravel@bnl.gov
National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA
My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
_______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
TaiYen Chen 979-739-7772 Department of Chemistry Texas A&M University P.O. Box 30012 College Station, TX 77842-3012 Visit us on the web at http://www.chem.tamu.edu
I have sent Chen some data on magnetite and maghemite.
mam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tai-Yen Chen"
Hi, Bruce Thanks for the valuable information. I have tried the sum of pathes method to do the estimation. But it seems like not to accurtate compared to the data I found in the paper. So, I want to go back to the the proper fit fo find out poper sigma^2 and eo. But I don't have any numeric chi data for gamma-Fe2O3. Do you have any idea where I may get these information? Thanks for all the help. Best Regard!!
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:38:35 -0400 Bruce Ravel
wrote: On Tuesday 30 October 2007 21:21:59 Tai-Yen Chen wrote:
hi, Can anyone tell me whether I can use ifeffit to do this job?
I want to know the % change in chi when the molecule have 3% change in radius? All I have is just the crystal struture of gamma-Fe2O3, which means I can only get the Feff. How can I introduce 3% change in redius so that I can get the difference of chi? Can anyone help me? Tanks a lot.
Hi TaiYen,
Since you are asking about using Ifeffit, I presume that you are interested in changes in the EXAFS spectrum rather than the XANES.
There are a number of ways you might approach this problem. Probably the best way of doing so would be to do a proper fit to measured data so that you can get a good measure of things like sigma^2 and e0. Then, using the results of the fit, modify the deltaR parameters for each path used in the fit to be 3% larger. Then simply add up the paths using the fitted values for sigma^2, e0, and so on.
You can also do something similar without actually doing a fit to data. Use Artemis or ifeffit itself to increase R for each path and simply sum the paths without using fitted values for sigma^2 and so on. The easiest way of doing so would be to set deltaR for each path equal to "0.03*reff". That will expand the length of each path by 3%, thanks to the magic of the special "reff" parameter in Ifeffit.
Another way of doing this (and a decent way of doing so for a XANES calculation) would be to use Feff's rmultiplier keyword: http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/feff/wiki/index.php?title=RMULTIPLIER
HTH, B
-- Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- bravel@bnl.gov
National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA
My homepage: http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
_______________________________________________ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
TaiYen Chen 979-739-7772 Department of Chemistry Texas A&M University P.O. Box 30012 College Station, TX 77842-3012
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Hi Matthew, Thanks! If I recall right, a reliable source also tells me that the data in http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/cgi-bin/newville/Model-Search.cgi/ModelData... is dominated by maghemite too. Cheers, --Matt
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