Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6

10 Dec 2012

      Hi Bruce,

I am a windows user. The two log file(Artemis and Atoms) and one of the CIF
files I used are attached to this email. Please let me know if you need more
information,

Hi Dan,

I use Mercury to open the CIF file then save as another CIF file as you
suggested. The new CIF file can be read by (D)Artemis with an warning
message basically says there're some problem with this file and some
possible ways to solve the problem(s).

I actually went to download an old version of IFEFFIT: Ifeffit 1.2.11. This
version can read the CIF files. I ran atoms and FIFF on it. Then save the
file. It could be opened by (D)Artemis without problem.

Thank you very much for your help and solutions,

Jiahui

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Today's Topics:

   1. Help: Artemis closes without error message when open .cif
      file (jiahui)
   2. Re: Help: Artemis closes without error message when open	.cif
      file (Bruce Ravel)
   3. Re: Help: Artemis closes without error message when	open.cif
      file (Daniel Whittaker)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:42:27 -0000
From: "jiahui" 
To: 
Subject: [Ifeffit] Help: Artemis closes without error message when
	open .cif	file
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Dear list,

I am having this problem when I try to open the crystal structure file in
.cif format. I've tried many times already--each time when I try to open the
crystal structure file in *.cif format, both (D)Atoms and (D)Artemis will
close by themselves without any error message.
What can I do to solve this problem and carry on with my work? I am using
Demeter 0.9.13 version.

Thank you very much for your help,

[jiahui]

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:48:21 -0500
From: Bruce Ravel 
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit 
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Help: Artemis closes without error message when
	open	.cif file
Message-ID: <61620056.C2dlAnbQpv@lachesis.bnl.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Jiahui,

It would be helpful to me to see an example of a CIF file that triggers this
problem.  If you are running on Windows, then I would also like to see the
contents of the %APPDATA%\demeter\dartemis.log file.  See

  http://bruceravel.github.com/demeter/pods/bugs.pod.html

If you are a linux user, I would need to see the messages sent to the
terminal, which requires running the program from the terminal rather from
some launcher widget.

As I have said many times before on this mailing list, CIF support is rather
weak at this time.  I am using a CIF parsing tool written by someone else
and it has its problems.  That said, as people report these problems, I am
able to build more smarts into Demeter so that it at least deals gracefully
with a CIF file it doesn't understand.

Cheers,
B

On Monday, December 10, 2012 03:42:27 PM jiahui wrote:
...
Dear list,
I am having this problem when I try to open the crystal structure file
in .cif format. I've tried many times already--each time when I try to
open the crystal structure file in *.cif format, both (D)Atoms and
(D)Artemis will close by themselves without any error message.
What can I do to solve this problem and carry on with my work? I am
using Demeter 0.9.13 version.
Thank you very much for your help,
[jiahui]
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:16:00 -0000
From: "Daniel Whittaker" 
To: "XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit" 
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Help: Artemis closes without error message when
	open.cif file
Message-ID: <6229BE20E02F4353A75ACA302F4B84CD@mbdx5dw2PC>
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Hi Jiahui,

I have experienced similar issues with cif files - there are so many
slightly different formats.

I found a solution was to open the file in Mercury:
http://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/free_services/mercury/downloads/
Save it as a .cif from within the program itself and then read it into
(D)Artemis. If that works then brilliant :) - If not then there are a few
other issues I have found working on my organic systems:
1) If there is any disorder I find it best to remove it.
2) When running atoms I have found it can produce an error. In this case, if
you save the file it produces (*.inp) then open this in a text editor and
remove any duplicate atoms (normally near the bottom of the file) save it
again and then reopen in Atoms then it should work fine.

I hope this helps troubleshoot your issues for now?

Regards,
Dan

Daniel Whittaker, MChem
Nuclear FiRST DTC PhD Student
Chemistry Building
The University of Manchester
Brunswick Street
Manchester
M13 9PL

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Ravel
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:48 PM
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Help: Artemis closes without error message when
open.cif file

Jiahui,

It would be helpful to me to see an example of a CIF file that triggers this
problem.  If you are running on Windows, then I would also like to see the
contents of the %APPDATA%\demeter\dartemis.log file.  See

  http://bruceravel.github.com/demeter/pods/bugs.pod.html

If you are a linux user, I would need to see the messages sent to the
terminal, which requires running the program from the terminal rather from
some launcher widget.

As I have said many times before on this mailing list, CIF support is rather
weak at this time.  I am using a CIF parsing tool written by someone else
and it has its problems.  That said, as people report these problems, I am
able to build more smarts into Demeter so that it at least deals gracefully
with a CIF file it doesn't understand.

Cheers,
B

On Monday, December 10, 2012 03:42:27 PM jiahui wrote:
...
Dear list,
I am having this problem when I try to open the crystal structure file
in .cif format. I've tried many times already--each time when I try to
open the crystal structure file in *.cif format, both (D)Atoms and
(D)Artemis will close by themselves without any error message.
What can I do to solve this problem and carry on with my work? I am
using Demeter 0.9.13 version.
Thank you very much for your help,
[jiahui]
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NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2 Building 535A Upton NY, 11973

Homepage:    http://xafs.org/BruceRavel
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