Hi Paul, Starting from the latest installer package (still only on the CARS server), running horae_update worked for me.... Well, OK, I did ~> source /Applications/Ifeffit/bin/iff_init.csh ~> horae_update ~> cd horae-034 ~> sudo make install To build the latest installe, I built the PGPLOT/aquaterm carefully and by hand, and installed the latest Perl/Tk804 from source. Starting with that (which does assume Apple's perl 5.8.1), the ifeffit source can be updated from the standard source kit with ~> ./configure --prefix=/Applications/Ifeffit ~> sudo make install and horae with a variation of the above. I'll gladly send more, but the source kits should now 'just work' for Mac OS 10.3 (and Apple's perl). Even using a later perl, I think it should be pretty simple to build from source, but maybe I'm missing something. That is, install the installer, compile the ifeffit kit, then make sure perl/Tk worked with the newer perl, and try to run horae_update. It might work. The installer does write to /Library/Perl, but there ought to be a 5.8.1 and 5.8.* directories that isolate binary stuff between version changes. Of course, you can also simply move copies of this folder around. I could try to put together instructions for how I built PGPLOT if you really want to start from scratch, but I don't think that's what is tripping you up. Let me know if that's not clear enough, --Matt
I was going to roll my own version of the latest incarnation of horae, but I noticed the library structure and install location has changed (at least on os x). Can you elaborate on this (Matt or Bruce)?
Better yet, is there a tar image of the source available for the mac os x version. Earlier I upgraded perl to 5.8.3 and then the older Tk broke so I was off on my own, so I was compiling everything myself, but now that the install is becoming more and more os x aware (thanks to Matt) it would seem to make sense to downgrade to Apple's older perl (which has prebinding enabled). Of course, now it only makes sense to get in sync with the official sources. Would it be possible to put up the sources on your web site Matt?
Paul (an Italian (Elettra) for a ten days)