Dear Bruce and other mailing list users, I have a very basic question concerning the choice of E0 in EXAFS data analysis. Recently I have been working on Ru solvated complex. I dont go into too many details but I can say its a pretty large molecule in aqueous solution with 3 ligands containing 6 N atoms and 30 C atoms in D3 symmetry. Now, we have measured the L3 edge XANES and EXAFS of this molecule and I have recently tried to analyze it. Now, what bothers me a lot is the following observation: once I start processing the data (meaning background removal, pre-edge subtraction etc.) AUTOBK in both Ifeffit and Athena proposes to place the edge energy E0 at the inflection point of the spectrum which lies at about 2838-2839 eV (which corresponds to atomic Ru L3 edge absorption energy). You might say its ok but I cannot accept this value. The inflection point lies on a huge pre-edge peak which is the 4d bound-to-bound transition (white line) which in principle I dont want to include in my chi(k) because its still below the ionization energy as I understand it. I guess the continuum states should start higher in energy and actually from other spectroscopies one would suspect the E0 to be around 2847 eV (so about 7-8 eV higher in energy space). Now I set my E0 to this value and I started fitting the spectrum with FEFF calculation performed on crystalline structure of the same complex. What I end up with is always E0 correction for the first shell of neighbors (meaning N atoms) between -6 to -7.5 eV. I check in chi.dat and xmu.dat files that in my FEFF calculation the k=0 value was assigned to approx. 2839 eV so its the same atomic value again. However I know it shouldnt be like that (apart from a simple fact that Ru in my compound is in its 2+ oxidation state which surely moves the E0 toward higher energies, doesnt it?). So, I tried to fool FEFF and make some tricks like shift my data in energy space or fit the white line and subtract it form the data but it always consistently converges to place the E0 value at the first inflection point meaning between 2839-2842 eV. I thought that when fitting the experimental data with FEFF scattering paths one can choose E0 and then refine its value by shifting the FEFF-calculated E0 by the amount which comes out of the fit. So if I have some value of E0 coming out of my fit then I just shift the initial k=0 value as estimated by FEFF using k -> sqrt( k-E0(2m/h_bar^2) ) (in other words the negative E0 correction would always shift the origin in k-space towards larger k values which means lower values in energy space). Ok, so now my question is the following: is there an explicit way to set E0 value before letting FEFF to do its job or it will always use the tabulated atomic value? So, if I dont know my E0 a priori how can I refine it for a complex or molecule which has different oxidation state than 0? I mean its a serious question in my opinion and I wish I could get some feedback from people who have been doing it for so many years. I hope I made my point clear enough to you. Let me know if you need any more feedback in order to answer my question. Ill be glad to give more details. Best regards, Wojciech ********************************************************************* Wojciech Gawelda Laboratoire de Spectroscopie Ultrarapide (LSU) Institut des Sciences et Ingénierie Chimiques (ISIC), Faculté des Sciences de Base (SB-BSP) Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) CH-1015 Lausanne-Dorigny, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (21) 693 0452 Fax.: +41 (21) 693 0422 E-mail: mailto:wojciech.gawelda@epfl.ch wojciech.gawelda@epfl.ch WWW: http://lsu.epfl.ch http://lsu.epfl.ch *********************************************************************