[Ifeffit] wiki or similar for IXS

Greetings, all - for a while now I have been considering setting up a wiki or slash driven site for the IXS education stuff. I haven't so far, mostly because The ifeffit mailing list seems to fill much of the need, at least as far as data analysis is concerned. My question is similar to Matt's: would people use it? If so, Carlo and I will set one up. Comments would be appreciated. thanks - grant On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 ifeffit-request@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov wrote:

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1. Re: new user contributions page (Dean Hesterberg) 2. Re: new user contributions page (Matt Newville) 3. Re: new user contributions page (Carlo U. Segre) 4. Re: new user contributions page (Bruce Ravel) 5. Scott's tutorial (Tamas Varga) 6. Re: new user contributions page (Matt Newville) 7. Re: new user contributions page (Carlo U. Segre) 8. FBox in newest horae (Carlo U. Segre) 9. Cu / CuO References? (Norbert Weiher) 10. Re: Cu / CuO References? (Matt Newville)

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:13:18 -0500 From: Dean Hesterberg Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: ravel@phys.washington.edu, XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Hi Bruce,

I thought you were on vacation - get the heck out of there!!

Best wishes for your trip to Nepal if that happens.

Dean

PS: I have noted to send you some files for Linear combination fitting testing - will do so in December.

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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:51 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Newville Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Bruce and Everyone,

...

I have started a page of user contributed materials. Here's the URL:

http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/contrib.html

Scott's tutorial is there.

I'd certainly enjoy having more things to put on that page....

First, thanks for the contribution, Scott! That's really great.

Another approach might be to make a set of web pages that many users could directly contribute to, using a wiki or other web-based content-management software that doesn't require direct intervention to the web-server machine (that is, content is edited and saved solely through web pages). This could have the potential advantages of letting Scott (and/or anyone else) update tutorials and docs at their discretion and of allowing one to make contributions from an internet cafe in Nepal (without loss of generality!).

Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society.

Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it?

--Matt

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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:14:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Carlo U. Segre" Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Matt:

Since I am effectively the sysadmin for the International Xafs Society server, I would be happy to coordinate. We are in the process of migrating the server to a pair of "new" machines and this should be taken care of within a few weeks. These are not really state of the art machines but much better than the one that is currently there.

Whatever I can do to help (including setting up a wiki if that is what is best) pelase let me know.

Carlo

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Matt Newville wrote:

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Hi Bruce and Everyone,

...

I have started a page of user contributed materials. Here's the URL:

http://leonardo.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/contrib.html

Scott's tutorial is there.

I'd certainly enjoy having more things to put on that page....

First, thanks for the contribution, Scott! That's really great.

Another approach might be to make a set of web pages that many users could directly contribute to, using a wiki or other web-based content-management software that doesn't require direct intervention to the web-server machine (that is, content is edited and saved solely through web pages). This could have the potential advantages of letting Scott (and/or anyone else) update tutorials and docs at their discretion and of allowing one to make contributions from an internet cafe in Nepal (without loss of generality!).

Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society.

Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it?

--Matt

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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:29:58 -0500 From: Bruce Ravel Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: <200311261529.58106.ravel@phys.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

On Wednesday 26 November 2003 02:49 pm, Matt Newville wrote:

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Such things are certainly possible: I think I could set something like this on our web server. If so, I'd hope to dedicate it to XAFS in general rather than just Athena/Artemis/Ifeffit. It might be nice to coordinate this with the International XAFS Society.

Is this worth doing?? Would people take advantage of it?

A wiki is definately an excellent tool for documentation.

I think a site using Slash (the engine used by slashdot.org and other sites) or some similar discussion and content management system would be an excellent idea and could serve most every function currently served by the IXS, but in a much more dynamic and interactive fashion.

Slash can have many topics, so one could imagine WinXAS and GNXAS topics as well as Ifeffit, Feff, and general XAS topics. It's configurable for the user, so each person can look at as many or as few topics as he finds interesting. Content can be presented and dicussions can be carried out. It would really be quite a remarkable resource for the XAS community.

Of course, I think it would be nice if someone other than Matt or I volunteered to set up and administer a discussion and content management system ......

B

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My homepage: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel EXAFS software: http://feff.phys.washington.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/

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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:27:13 -0500 From: Tamas Varga Subject: [Ifeffit] Scott's tutorial To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20031126161549.00a6cd30@chem-mail.chemistry.gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:34:46 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Newville Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Bruce, Carlo,

Thanks for the immediate feedback. On the technical side, I run the web pages for CARS on a dual Xeon server - it seems pretty fast. I've played with Zope/Plone a little: it's a very nice 'content management' tool. I've been thinking about setting this up on the CARS machines for awhile, and would be willing to use this an excuse to really try to get it to work.

Then again, this might be an ideal job for the IXS (The user info, software catalog, and error analysis pages would benefit from having outside people directly edit their own info). I'm willing to try this here at CARS, but I'm happy to have someone else do it too!

My main question has been would such a thing get used? I guess one way to find out is to set it up and see if it gets used. My sense is now that it would get used (especially with Scott's zip file of ZnO examples, and remembering that Francois sent wavelet software and Corwin Booth sent self-absorption software earlier this year too). OK, I will put this on my to-do list.

Somewhat unrelated (but since I'm clogging your mailbox), I should have a much better 'Windows Updater' with Bruce's latest programs ready in a week or so, and a "real installer" for Mac OS X 10.3 sometime in the next few weeks as well.

--Matt

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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:42:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Carlo U. Segre" Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] new user contributions page To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Matt:

I have an interest in trying out zope as well for other IIT uses. I have not yet spent much time figuring out how to set it up and make it work effectivley though.

Although the IXS server will not be as good as the CARS one, I believe that it could handle the load.

One possibility is that Matt and I get together and discuss it, then come up with a reasonable plan.

Carlo

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Matt Newville wrote:

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Bruce, Carlo,

Thanks for the immediate feedback. On the technical side, I run the web pages for CARS on a dual Xeon server - it seems pretty fast. I've played with Zope/Plone a little: it's a very nice 'content management' tool. I've been thinking about setting this up on the CARS machines for awhile, and would be willing to use this an excuse to really try to get it to work.

Then again, this might be an ideal job for the IXS (The user info, software catalog, and error analysis pages would benefit from having outside people directly edit their own info). I'm willing to try this here at CARS, but I'm happy to have someone else do it too!

My main question has been would such a thing get used? I guess one way to find out is to set it up and see if it gets used. My sense is now that it would get used (especially with Scott's zip file of ZnO examples, and remembering that Francois sent wavelet software and Corwin Booth sent self-absorption software earlier this year too). OK, I will put this on my to-do list.

Somewhat unrelated (but since I'm clogging your mailbox), I should have a much better 'Windows Updater' with Bruce's latest programs ready in a week or so, and a "real installer" for Mac OS X 10.3 sometime in the next few weeks as well.

--Matt

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Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:41:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Carlo U. Segre" Subject: [Ifeffit] FBox in newest horae To: IFEFFIT Mailing List Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Bruce:

I have made a quick stab at packaging the newest version of horae. I noticed that FBox.pm is no longer included, however, the error in the ope file dialog now reappears. That is, the second time the open dialog routine is used, it begins at the root directory. I think that this was the reason you used a patched version of FBox. I think that I will re-include FBox.pm in my Debian packages.

For documentation purposes, I am using perl-tk 800.024.

Carlo

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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:07:39 +0100 From: Norbert Weiher Subject: [Ifeffit] Cu / CuO References? To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Message-ID: <200311270007.39565.weiher@tech.chem.ethz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Friends,

I am doing an XAS lecture and as example I would like to present Cu and CuO... Data for Cu I have - but not for CuO :( Can anyone give me Cu K edge spectra from this one? The Farrel Lytle DB is somehow down...

Thanks for helping - and Bruce: Wish you a nice vacation if you still read this...

Cheers,

Norbert -- Dr. rer. nat. Norbert Weiher (weiher@tech.chem.ethz.ch) Institute for Chemical and Bioengineering - ETH Hönggerberg HCI E 117 - 8093 Zürich - Phone: +41 1 63 3 48 32

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Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:23:23 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Newville Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Cu / CuO References? To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Norbert,

A CuO spectra is attached. It's from http:/cars9.uchicago.edu/~newville/ModelLib/search.html

It may not be the best data, but it should be OK for an example. There are a few other spectra for model data there, but it's hard to keep it up-to-date.

Good luck on the lecture!!

--Matt