Hi Paul (Fons) this is what happened to me: 1) I have the latest Tiger installed and I had horae 057 working fine on my G4 2) willing to upgrade to 058, I tried horae_update and saw it not working 3) I read the messages regarding the fact that the update script no longer works 4) I cancelled (I know I know, stupid me... :() the version that worked for me and downloaded the Ifeffit 1.2.8 installer for Tiger from Source forge and installed the package. 5) now, everytime I try to launch athena I get the following message... any (detailed) help??? Stefano -- ____________________________________________ Stefano Ciurli Professor of Chemistry Laboratory of Bioinorganic Chemistry Department of Agro-Environmental Science and Technology University of Bologna Viale Giuseppe Fanin, 40 I-40127 Bologna Italy Phone: +39-051-209-6204 Fax: +39-051-209-6203 "Fatti non foste a viver come bruti, ma per seguir virtute e canoscenza" Dante Alighieri - Inferno - Canto XXVI "Ihr seid bestimmt, nicht Tieren gleich zu leben, Nein, Tugend zu erringen und Erkenntnis" "Ye were not form'd to live the life of brutes, But virtue to pursue and knowledge high"