Paul and Shelly, I do not think Einstein temperature for Zn-S bond should be recycled as the Einstein temperature for a Zn-O bond. To my opinion, the best approximation for Zn-O Einstein temperature would be to look up for EXAFS data on Zn2+ complexes in aqueous solution, assume that what they publish for sigma2 is dominated by thermal disorder, and calculate Einstein temperature for Zn-O from the published value of sigma2. Then, extrapolate the sigma2 to low temperature by an Einstein model. That would probably give a lower bound of the total disorder in Zn-O that you expect for this bond in your complex, since some static disorder may be present as well. Anatoly ________________________________ From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov on behalf of Kelly, Shelly D. Sent: Fri 7/27/2007 8:55 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Debye Waller factors for Water Molecules Hi Paul, I was hoping someone else would answer your question. I have an idea. It might not be a good idea. Look up the MSRD term that you get from Grant's DFT parameterizations for the first Zn-S bond. Play around with the Einstein model for a Zn-S bond of the correct distance for the first Zn-S bond, to determine the correct Einstein temperature that gives the MSRD value that you looked up from Grant's DFT. Then use that Einstein temperature and the Einstein model for the Zn-O bond of the water molecule. --It might work.... Cheers, Shelly ________________________________ From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Paul Fons Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:29 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: [Ifeffit] Debye Waller factors for Water Molecules I am analyzing some Zn organo-metallic protein complexes and have take EXAFS data at low temperature at the Zn edge. I am now in the midst of trying to fit the data. For the mean squared relative displacement terms, I am using Grant's DFT parameterizations for the Zn-cysteine system. This is working fine. In one of my complexes, I also have a water molecule within the "first shell". Does anyone have a suggestion for a reasonable MSRD term for this (at 20 K)? Paul