Hello Bruce, thanks for the latest tarball. I followed all instructions, but I find the following problems: 1) the updater you kindly refer to asks, at some point, to choose between option 1 and option 0: neither one works, so I manually downloaded the compressed horae050 from your site (I lost the exact message as I then downloaded the latest version and the updater tells that to me...) 2) I ran the commands : gzip -dc horae-050.tar.gz | tar xvf - cd horae-050 perl Makefile.PL make 3) I here become root and issue the command: make install 4) everything seems to be going smooth up to this point 5) when I either clic on the athena icon or run the program from the shell, I get the following error message: % athena Tk::Error: Can't set -foreground to `black' for Tk::NumEntry=HASH(0x149371e0): unknown option "-foreground" at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Configure.pm line 46. at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Derived.pm line 294 Tk callback for .frame1.frame.canvas2.numentry Tk::Derived::configure at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Derived.pm line 306 Tk::Widget::new at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Widget.pm line 205 Tk::Widget::__ANON__ at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Widget.pm line 256 main::draw_properties at /Applications/Ifeffit/bin/athena line 1906 Can't set -foreground to `black' for Tk::NumEntry=HASH(0x149371e0): unknown option "-foreground" at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Configure.pm line 46. at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Derived.pm line 294 at /Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/Tk/Derived.pm line 306 6) when I try to run artemis either by clicking on the icon or by issuing the line command, the program starts smoothly In summary: there may be a problem in the updater and in the athena files. -- ____________________________________________ Stefano Ciurli Professor of Chemistry Department of Agro-Environmental Science and Technology University of Bologna Viale Giuseppe Fanin, 40 I-40127 Bologna Italy Phone: +39-051-209-6204 Fax: +39-051-209-6203 "Fatti non foste a viver come bruti, ma per seguir virtute e canoscenza" Dante Alighieri - Inferno - Canto XXVI "Ihr seid bestimmt, nicht Tieren gleich zu leben, Nein, Tugend zu erringen und Erkenntnis" "Ye were not form'd to live the life of brutes, But virtue to pursue and knowledge high"