I have made and installed on sourceforge a new binary installer for Mac 10.4 that contains both ifeffit 1.2.9 and horae 062. The new installer also includes an user selectable option to use either the included aquaterm (cocoa based graphics) or the standard pgplot X11 graphics output. Which graphic rendering process is asked by the Applescript applet that initiates the horae (perl) process. In either case, pgplot is used by horae to render graphics, however the aquaterm option has the added advantage of offering resizing (aquaterm buffers all of the output allowing dynamic window resizing without having to replot the data -- aka the X11 route). Aquaterm also allows direct saving of the output into a pdf file. I have prevailed upon a friend (who knows nothing about XAFS) to let me try the installer on his Mac. Both athena and artemis started up correctly on his machine so I am optimistic that it should be relatively painless to get running. As usual, problems with the installer are my fault (not Bruce's or Matt's) and should be reported to me. The new release can be found on sourceforge.net at the link http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80919. Paul