[Ifeffit] Using Larch to analyze uranium compounds

juejing.liu at gmail.com juejing.liu at gmail.com
Sat May 21 15:05:55 CDT 2022


Hi All,

Thank you for the information. I double-checked my Feff calculation and
noticed that I did not change the uranium edge from K (default, but not
reasonable for uranium) to L3 (what I used in experiment). After using the
correct uranium edge to run the Feff calculation, the fitting result looks
good.

I previously used Artemis. The Feff function in this software would
automatically pick the common edge for the absorbing elements (in my case,
L3-edge for uranium or thorium). That makes me ignore the edge box in Larch.

Best,

Juejing







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Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 12:25:21 -0700
From: John J Rehr <jjr at uw.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Using Larch to analyze uranium compounds
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Hi Juejing,

  It also wasn't clear to me which edge you were measuring, but U XAFS are
interesting. The large size of Uranium atoms typically improves convergence
of XAFSs calculations, so FEFF calculations often work well for L-edge XAFS
spectra with 17 keV x-rays. On the other hand, K-edge XAFS of U compounds is
often  not  useful due to the large core-hole broadening  of U which limits
the XAFS  to short near neighbor distances, and  the large > 100 keV K-edge
energy  is not available at many synchrotron sources. I'll be interested to
hear what source you used to measure the XAFS.  Thanks.

  With best wishes,
  John

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:13 AM Matt Newville <newville at cars.uchicago.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Juejing,
>
> Sorry for the trouble. It's hard to guess from the screenshots alone - 
> if only we had a Project file you could send (soon, soon).
>
> One thing I see is it looks like the Feff calculation you're using was 
> done at the U K-edge.  Is that correct?  Is the data U K-edge too?
>
> I don't know if that would completely explain the difference, and 
> Mike's suggestion of looking at the coordination number is a good idea.
>
> XAS Viewer writes a "feffit script" in your user folder 
> (C:\Users\jiuju\larch\xas_viewer\feffit_script.lar).  Compared to the 
> GUI form, that's a little bit cryptic and formal, but it is also what 
> the program is really doing.  If the suggestions above don't help 
> clarify the problem, can you post that?
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 7:35 PM <juejing.liu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am recently trying to use Larch to fit XAS spectra of uranium 
>> compounds (e.g., UO2, using an existing CIF file). I did not achieve 
>> a good fit and the amplitude of the model is way lower than the data. 
>> Then I tried to plot the uranium oxygen 1st path with all 8 atoms a 
>> sigma2=0.001 by using the plot model function. The resulting 
>> scattering peak is still far lower than it should be (images below). Did
I do something strange with the program?
>>
>>
>>
>> The Larch version I used was 0.9.59. I can send the cif file and the 
>> UO2 data I used if necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Juejing
>>
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>> *Juejing Liu*
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