[Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue

Matthew Marcus mamarcus at lbl.gov
Tue Sep 7 21:14:51 CDT 2021


This probably isn't relevant, but Desktop is actually a folder under c:.
On my computer, it's C:\Users\MAMarcus.  I see that 'other Matt' concurs 
with this and seems to be suggesting that your username may have 
non-ASCII characters.  I'm guessing Korean.   Try making a new folder 
under C:\ with only ASCII characters in the name.
	mam

On 9/7/2021 6:25 PM, Bang, Shinhyo wrote:
> Dear Matthew,
> 
> I tried to save a project to "Desktop" which had no parent folder, but 
> the same problem occurred. I think the non-ASCII character is not the 
> only problem.
> Still, I can save onto a usb from now on. Thank you very much.
> 
> Best,
> Shinhyo
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *보낸 사람:* Matt Newville <newville at cars.uchicago.edu> 대신 Ifeffit 
> <ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
> *보낸 날짜:* 2021년 9월 7일 화요일 오후 6:06
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> *제목:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue
> Hi Shinhyo,
> 
> Again, I would ask to check that the folder you are having trouble 
> saving to has any non-ASCII characters. For sure, ifeffit and demeter 
> are not going to be able to handle folder or file names with non-ASCII 
> characters.
> 
> Larch is slightly better at this - it can work with files with names in 
> non-ASCII text encodings.  To be clear, the situation with Larch is 
> still not ideal, especially on Windows, because
>     a) the base installation folder can contain only ASCII characters, 
> and cannot contain any spaces (apparently this is some problem
>         with other libraries or possibly some other variation on point b).
>     b) the concept of "localization" on Windows machines is sort of a 
> mess and many libraries (at least, from Python) don't handle this very 
> well.  For Larch, we recently had to explicitly set locale to be "simple 
> C / ASCII".  That sort (or should!?) mean that you can read/write files 
> and folders with non-ASCII characters, though I'm not certain that will 
> work for all character encoding sets.  It's possible this will get 
> better with time, but it's not something that we can solve.
> 
> For ifeffit / demeter there is simply no hope for non-ASCII text to ever 
> be handled.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:45 PM Bang, Shinhyo <shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu 
> <mailto:shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     Dear Matthew,
> 
>     I tried to save the project onto a usb, and it WORKed! Thank you so
>     much for your help.
> 
>     Best,
>     Shinhyo
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *보낸 사람:* Matthew Marcus <mamarcus at lbl.gov
>     <mailto:mamarcus at lbl.gov>> 대신 Ifeffit
>     <ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
>     *보낸 날짜:* 2021년 9월 7일 화요일 오후 4:11
>     *받는 사람:* ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>     <ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
>     <mailto:ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
>     *제목:* Re: [Ifeffit] IFEFFIT file saving issue
>     There are other characters that Windoze doesn't like in filenames:
>     |\/*":<>?
>              mam
> 
>     On 9/7/2021 3:58 PM, Matt Newville wrote:
>     > Hi Shinhyo, Liane,
>     > 
>     > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 5:39 PM Bang, Shinhyo <shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu <mailto:shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu>
>     > <mailto:shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu <mailto:shinhyo.bang at wsu.edu>>> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     Thank you for the response.
>     >     The OS is Windows 10.
>     >     In addition to the symptom that was described aforehand, Athena
>     >     freezes when I try to save the file.
>     > 
>     > 
>     > Is it possible that the folder or file you are saving to has a space or 
>     > other non-ASCII character in it?  I believe that non-ASCII characters 
>     > are known to cause problems.
>     > Can you check whether you can save a file anywhere (maybe even the 
>     > top-level "C:\" folder)?
>     > 
>     > --Matt
>     > 
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