[Ifeffit] Space group type in Artemis
Bruce Ravel
bravel at bnl.gov
Mon Mar 13 08:20:14 CDT 2017
On 03/11/2017 05:56 AM, Abhinav Prabhakar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a question about the working of Artemis as a new user.
>
> Artemis does not recognize the space group B11b. When importing a cif
> file of a crystal with this symmetry, it sends a prompt message that the
> space group symbol cannot be recognized. As a result, I changed it to
> P11b and it works. But would this change any crystal information (for
> eg. Degen, Reff values) significantly?
I am not a crystallography expert in any sense. When I wrote Artemis, I
meticulously followed what I found in the fourth edition of the
International Tables for Crystallography, Volume A. Every symbol
defined in there is recognized by Artemis. (Well, I guess I should say
that every symbol is /supposed to be/ recognized by Artemis. If one is
missing, that's a bug and should be reported.)
"B11b" is not a symbol that I found in my copy of ITC volume A. As
Robert suggested, there may be a way to rotate group 9 so that "B11b" is
an interpretable symbol in the abstract. But Artemis does not know how
to do that. (Nor do I.)
"P11b" is a setting for space group #7. If, as Robert suggests, your
CIF file is for space group #9, then the answer to your last question is
yes. It is plainly obvious that using a different space group will
change the degeneracies and distances.
Of course, you did not bother to include a copy of the CIF file in
question to your original email, so it is not actually possible for
Robert or I or anyone else to actually help you effectively.
At the risk of sounding like an annoyingly broken record, everyone
should take the time to ask a good question or write an actionable bug
report:
http://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/documents/SinglePage/help.html
http://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/documents/SinglePage/bugs.html
B
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