[Ifeffit] Is there a Artemis User's Guide like the Athena?

Richard Mayes mayes at ion.chem.utk.edu
Fri Dec 14 10:01:44 CST 2007


As someone who was in your place 2 years ago, one thing Bruce mentioned
was reading the papers of people you find on the mail list, however he
didn't specifically mention searching the mail list.  When I had
questions, the answers were often already discussed on the mail-list.  If
you're not a member of the mail-list, I highly recommend you join.  As I
currently struggle writing a how-to manual that's supposed to shorten the
XAFS learning curve for our group, I find myself searching the mail-list
archives often to see how different people approach different issues.

Good luck on your quest!

>> Hi Bruce
>> I have spent 1 month to learn the Athena by using your "ATHENA User's
>> Guide"
>> updated at Aug. 31,2007. I am very satisfied with it and thank you very
>> much. Now I am learning the ARTEMIS. However, till now I can not find a
>> suitable guide for a beginner. The PPT wrote by Shelly is not suitable
>> for
>> me. And the "artemisdoc.pod" is also puzzled me. Is there a Artemis
>> User's
>> Guide like the Athena?
>> Thanks
>> Kefan
>> --
>> Kefan Wang
>> School of Physics and Electronics
>> Henan University, 475004
>> E-mail: kfwang at henu.edu.cn; wang.kefan at gmail.com
> Hi Kefan,
> I suspect that my answer to this question will be of broad interest,
> so I am taking the liberty of CCing the Ifeffit mailing list.
> Thank you for the very kind words regaridng Athena.  I am pleased that
> you found the Athena User's Guide so helpful.  Sadly, I have not yet
> written a document of comparable extent for Artemis.  I certainly
> understand that there is a need for comparable user guide, but finding
> the time and energy to write one has not yet happened.  Writing the
> Athena User's Guide was fairly exhausting and I need to take a break
> before embarking on a similarly large document for Artemis.
> I have to defend Shelly's various presentations.  I think they have a
> lot of good information in them.  I think that using them along with
> other resources can give you enough of an overview of Artemis to get
> started.  I strongly recommend that you work through Scott Calvin's
> ZnO example, which can be foun at
>    http://cars9.uchicago.edu/iffwiki/HoraeSoftware#contrib
> ZnO is somewhat of an idealized example -- many of us work on
> problems that are pretty far removed from a simple crystal like ZnO.
> However, Scott's example is quite thorough.  Working through it while
> carefully following his comments in the project journals will
> introduce many of Artemis' features.
> As for the pod file -- those are the files that get displayed when you
> click on one of the documentation buttons from within Artemis.  I
> acknowledge that they are thin on details and somewhat out of date.
> The last bit of advice I can give you is to read the papers written by
> the names you see on the Ifeffit mailing list.  The folks who offer
> answers to question on the list are also some of the best
> practitioners of EXAFS analysis using Feff.  Although it might seem
> funny to read papers by Anatoly Frenkel or Paul Fons if you are
> studying environmental science (or Shelly Kelly's if you are a
> materials scientist), I strongly recommend doing so anyway.  Their
> science might be pretty far away from what you do, but the EXAFS
> analysis strategies are quite instructive and are certainly
> transferable.
> I know that is not the answer you were hoping for, but it may be
> helpful nonetheless.
> Regards,
> B
> --
>  Bruce Ravel  ----------------------------------- bravel at bnl.gov
>  National Institute of Standards and Technology
>  Synchrotron Methods Group at Brookhaven National Laboratory
>  Building 535A
>  Upton NY, 11973
>  My homepage:    http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel
>  EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
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