[Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

Kelly, Shelly D. SKelly at anl.gov
Wed Mar 1 11:10:26 CST 2006


Hi Paul,

 

Here is an edited version of the Fe project file.  I believe that the first shell signal is not isolated from the 2nd and third shells.  One way for the fit to look better when not enough paths are present is for the s2 value to be large to spread the signal out with an outrageous coordination number.  I added a C and a Zn path to model the region from r=1 to 3.5 Å.  The fit is not that great, the background needs to be fixed and I'm not sure that the C and Zn paths are the best choice.  If you look at the real or imaginary parts of the fit with kweights of 1 and 2 and 3 you will see that we have done a fair job at reproducing the data.    Hopefully this little bit of help will get you going in the right direction.

 

Shelly

 

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From: ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:54 PM
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

 

Hi Shelly

 

I've attached the artemis project files.

 

Hopefully you get further with them than I have been able to.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

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	From: Kelly, Shelly D. <mailto:SKelly at anl.gov>  

	To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <mailto:ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>  

	Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:50 AM

	Subject: RE: [Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

	 

	Hi Paul,

	 

	How close are the distances for the 6 ligands?  It is usually not possible to fit a single peak in the EXAFS spectrum by 6 independent signals.  It sound like the distribution of distances for these 6 ligands is incorrect.  I suggest that you try to fit just the first peak with one and then with two different shells with unknown coordination numbers and distances.  This will give you some more information about what the data indicate the structure is like.

	 

	If you send me an artemis file, I'll take a peak at it.

	 

	Shelly

	skelly at anl.gov

	
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	From: ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Paul
	Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:31 PM
	To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
	Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

	 

	Hi Shelly

	 

	Unfortunately the coordination number is 1 for all atoms present. I have the crystal structure of the complex, so I am currently including 6 ligating atoms all at distances defined by the structure in the input file. It seems to be the first shell that is causing the problems, with a quickfit first shell artemis fit giving nominally 13 ligating species (which is of course absurd). So I believe something else must be the problem.

	 

	Cheers

	 

	Paul

		----- Original Message ----- 

		From: Kelly, Shelly D. <mailto:SKelly at anl.gov>  

		To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <mailto:ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>  

		Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:55 AM

		Subject: RE: [Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

		 

		Hi Paul,

		 

		It seems possible that one of the other amplitude terms is also incorrect.  Scott already mentioned the step height but what about the coordination number?  The amplitude of the model is given by coordination number * S02.  You mentioned that the S02 value was somewhere between 2 and 4.  What is the value for coordination number * S02?  If the coordination number is 1, then it is possible that the parameters are switched.  Maybe the coordination number should be between 2 and 4 and S02 should be around 1.

		 

		HTH,

		Shelly

		 

		
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		From: ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Paul
		Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:52 PM
		To: ifeffit at millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
		Subject: [Ifeffit] Amplitude in Artemis

		 

		I have just started a PhD and have been given alot of EXAFS data to simulate but I don't know much about artemis. I have tried to fit the data for quite some time now, but can't get any kind of good fit unless the amplitude is above 1. Is there any way amp can be above 1 and rationally explained?

		 

		Cheers,

		 

		Paul

		
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