[Ifeffit] FEFF8 vrs FEFF6
Matt Newville
newville at cars.uchicago.edu
Wed Feb 1 08:54:22 CST 2006
HI Shelly,
I wouldn't say it's wrong to use Feff8 for EXAFS analysis, just rarely
necessary.
Feff8 was definitely designed for XANES, and improvements for EXAFS
were not the main goal. But there are a few cases where Feff8 _is_
known to be better for EXAFS than Feff6. (I'll leave out Feff7 as it
seems no one is using this much). Clusters with H is one, and
transuranic elements is another. I've heard a few people claim that
Feff8 gives "better E0's", which I think means that E0 refines to a
value closer to 0 (that is, to where the it's arbitrarily assigned in
the data processing). Since E0 has to be refined and has little
physical significance, I don't find this to be a compelling advantage
for Feff8.
Early versions of Feff8 (pre-release? Including 8.00?? I'm not sure)
were much worse for EXAFS.This did get fixed, but I'm not sure when
(I have a hard time understanding Feff8 version numbers and can never
really tell which get released and widely used: I've given up
complaining and live wih the fact that "Feff8" means one snapshot of 8
years worth of work.). By Feff8.1 for sure, and maybe eralier, there
were essentially no difference between Feff6, 7, and 8 for EXAFS.
That was based on analysis of data on metal foils (Cu, Ag, Au), and
could hardly be called thorough and possibly not even 'highly relevent
to real-world problems', as it doesn't even test changes in exchange
or overlap of metal-oxygen potentials. Better testing and
comparisons would be very good.
Anyway, I think it's fine to use Feff6, 7, or 8 for EXAFS.
I don't think anything should change for these versions in the
reporting of how a Feff calculation was done for EXAFS. Most EXAFS
work using Feff give no details about the calculation, and I think
that's mostly OK, as the Feff/Atoms/Artemis default parameters are
generally quite reasonable. If the work discusses comparing
different Feff calculations, then obviously more detail on what was
changing would be needed.
That's my opinion, anyway.
--Matt
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