[Ifeffit] New Method for Normalization?
Matt Newville
newville at cars.uchicago.edu
Thu Sep 29 17:00:12 CDT 2005
Hi Dave,
Thanks for bringing this up. I've talked with Tsu-Chien about
the MBACK procedure discussed in the JSR article, and about
whether he thought it would be worth adding to Ifeffit. I
interpreted our conversation to be that it wasn't a very high
priority for either of us two to do the implementation soon.
(I don't recall if Tsu-Chien is on this list, but I'd be happy
to be corrected).
I do not mean to say that I think it should not be done. I do
think the Cromer-Libermann background (bkg_cl) command in
ifeffit is sort of close, but it does ignore any drifts in
instrumentation response. And Ifeffit always does a linear
pre-edge. I've come to understand (especially from people with
very dilute samples and solid state detectors) that this can be
a noticeable problem.
I think including the MBACK approach is a good idea, and would
not want to discourage anyone from making that happen. But
having an option for a Victoreen pre-edge, say, is probably even
more important. I think that coupling a better pre-edge
function with the Cromer-Libermann background might get 3/4 of
the way to the MBACK approach.
I'd love to hear other opinions on this....
--Matt
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Barton, David (DG) wrote:
> XANES Aficionados,
>
> I know most users on this list are hard-core EXAFS analysts,
> but some of us use XANES analysis to decipher mixed phases or
> use it to get structural clues when data quality isn't
> sufficient for EXAFS analysis. Anyway, I have a question for
> those interested in quantitative analysis of XANES or those
> that are willing to offer an opinion on methods to normalize
> raw spectra to get reliable, repeatable comparisons of
> near-edge features.
>
> Has anyone considered using the methods of Penner-Hahn to
> normalize their data to get reliable intensities of near-edge
> features? The reference to their method of normalization is
> below:
>
> J. Synchrotron Rad. (2005). 12, 506-510 [doi:10.1107/S0909049504034193]
> "A method for normalization of X-ray absorption spectra"
> T.-C. Weng, G. S. Waldo and J. E. Penner-Hahn
>
> It is my understanding the Ifeffit uses a linear function to
> remove the pre-edge and a quadratic for the post-edge and that
> the Athena's flatten is a subtraction of these functions.
> This is an excellent method under most scenarios since the
> background is usually fairly smooth and can be well
> approximated by a quadratic equation. Personally, I have had
> only a few rare cases where the quadratic function on the
> post-edge was not sufficient to reliably normalize the data
> and in those cases a third-order polynomial was sufficient.
> Does anyone else have an opinion on using alternative
> normalization routines?
>
> Dave
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