[Ifeffit] Ifeffit for Mac OS X / Fink

Jeff Terry terryj at iit.edu
Wed Apr 21 19:10:49 CDT 2004


Hi Paul,

I would like to get your makefile for use with Aquaterm, if you're 
willing to pass it on. I really liked Aquaterm until I got tired of not 
having a cursor.

Jeff

Jeff Terry
Biological, Chemical, and Physical Sciences
Illinois Institute of Technology
Chicago IL 60616
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On Apr 21, 2004, at 6:16 PM, Paul Fons wrote:

> Hi Matt (Bruce),
>
>
> I see what you mean.  Although I use fink a lot for my own purposes, I 
> understand your philosophy and admit it is probably correct for the 
> average feffit/horae user.  Certainly the issue where things are 
> installed can be fixed -- or at least circumvented by either 
> overwriting the /Applications launchers or making them applescript 
> applications that can realize that the latest binaries are now in 
> /usr/bin/local.  I believe there is an installer for the g77 as well 
> on the net somewhere (or at least there was for 10.2) so perhaps fink 
> may not be necessary at all.  By the way the latest version of 
> aquaterm may be alpha, but so far in its interactions with horae (I 
> only use it with horae), I have not had a single problem with it.  
> What would be the next logical step to make this a reality?  Should I 
> pass along my makefile changes?  If you could describe your setup (or 
> put it into a tar archive, perhaps I could download it and help with 
> the hacking).
>
> 						Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2004, at 2:26 AM, Matt Newville wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Just to be clear, I mean a 'Fink-friendly' installer to allow a user
>> to run 'horae_update' if g77 works, which probably means having Fink
>> installed.  It would not use any Fink packages itself.
>>
>>> I believe currently, using my installation of horae, ifeffit and
>>> friends, Bruce's script works "out of the box".  I have installed
>>> horae and ifeffit on a friend's machine which works nicely using
>>> the fink installed packages (but not using fink itself for the
>>> installation yet).  On my own machine, I have upgraded to the
>>> latest version of perl, etc. and things are a little more
>>> complicated (but not much).
>>
>> horae_update sort of works for me, but not well enough to use with
>> the binary installer.  It tries to build Ifeffit.bs, the link
>> between perl and the ifeffit library.  Currently, this gives several
>> warnings about unneeded Framework stuff and produces a non-working
>> Ifeffit.bs for me:  This seems to be due to how ifeffit wants to
>> link with my version of the PGPLOT library.  This is solvable, but
>> it means altering Makefile.PL (and probably re-building PGPLOT to
>> make Makefile.PL easier).  Another issue is that horae_update
>> installs to /usr/local/bin, which means the clickable icons in
>> /Applications/Ifeffit won't point to the updated versions.  Again,
>> that's a small Mac-specific alteration to Makefile.PL.  BTW, none of
>> this is Bruce's fault: using /Applications/Ifeffit is very
>> Mac-specific, and horae_update expects 'normal perl on Unix' rules.
>>
>> Re: Aquaterm, I'd be willing to include this (I beleive I'd also
>> need to include Aquaterm.app in the binary installer.  That's OK,
>> but Aquaterm claims to be in alpha-phase, so might not be the best
>> idea). I have not tried building the latest Aquaterm.  I should
>> rebuild PGPLOT anyway, so I'm willing to try this.
>>
>> Finally, For what it's worth, my view is that building from source
>> is ALWAYS better than using a binary.  As an example, the current
>> binary installer of Ifeffit for Mac only works on 10.3.  The source
>> code can be made to work on 10.2 as well, and will likely work on
>> 10.4.  Binary packages from Fink or debian do not adequately manage
>> 'dependencies', no matter what they may claim.
>>
>> --Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
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