Being one who likes going where few have gone before, I went and installed Tiger (which has perl 5.8.6 installed by default by the way). I then installed the latest Tk and followed that up by the usual incantations for the horae-051 and all was well. It works without trouble. This just in case anyone else out there wants to use the new search feature spotlight (very handy for those pdfs, source code etc.) I can search my 20 gigabyte home directory in about 10 seconds for content (not just filename). Neat stuff. Paul