Thank you Dr. Segre,
 
So I should not be skeptical if my fitting results return a high Debye Waller value for my first shell as compared with the second shell.
 
I appreciate your help.
 
Hashem Stietiya

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From: Hashem Stietiya <mstiet2@tigers.lsu.edu>
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Dear All,

Does the Debye Waller value for the first shell have to be smaller than that
of the second shell? can you have a situation where the Debye Waller value
for the Zn-O first shell is 0.011 and for the Zn-Fe second shell is 0.003?
so if there is thermal or static disorder in the first coordination
shell,that must be the case for the second coordination shell?

Best Regards,

Hashem Stietiya
Louisiana State University
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:06:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Carlo Segre <segre@iit.edu>
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Debye Waller for first shell and second shell
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it is quite possible for there to be significant disorder in the first
shell.  Vacancies can cause this or a size mismatch with a dopant atom.
In addition, oxygen is much less massive than iron and so can have much
higher thermal vibrations.

Cheers,

Carlo

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Hashem Stietiya wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Does the Debye Waller value for the first shell have to be smaller than that
> of the second shell? can you have a situation where the Debye Waller value
> for the Zn-O first shell is 0.011 and for the Zn-Fe second shell is 0.003?
> so if there is thermal or static disorder in the first coordination
> shell,that must be the case for the second coordination shell?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hashem Stietiya
> Louisiana State University
>

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