Investigating further, it seems that the problem might instead be that you are putting too much faith in the default values for the various parameters used to process the data. I mean this in the sense of the third paragraph of this page: https: //urldefense. us/v3/__https: //bruceravel. github. io/demeter/documents/Athena/bkg/index. html__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ZV4G3Tv0ADAF_XfsXPi7jp09Cy7uP90mAc50zVhsg5W6sWIUoUfT5EXKbLzmKOeDR5JshShN8zoyLHLiNB-XnQc-0reA8Q$
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Investigating further, it seems that the problem might instead be that
you are putting too much faith in the default values for the various
parameters used to process the data. I mean this in the sense of the
third paragraph of this page:
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In short, you need to be more mindful of the values of the various
processing parameters. I am skeptical of the value of E0. The values
of the normalization parameters are certainly incorrect for this
measurement, as is clear from the green and purple lines. And when I
click the orange normalization button, sure enough ... it plots the data
inverted.
Playing around just a bit with the parameters explained here:
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and setting them to sensible values for your data completely fixes the
problem.
Professorial advice: don't just trust things, make sure you understand
what is happening with your data.
B
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> Hello, First of all, thank you all so very much for offering this
> platform to address XAS data processing!! It is wonderful to know it is
> available. I am having a problem using Athena "Linear Combination
> Fitting" with x-ray fluorescence
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> First of all, thank you all so very much for offering this platform to
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> I am having a problem using Athena "Linear Combination Fitting" with x-
> ray fluorescence data from SSRL. Last year, we collected sulfur K-edge
> XANES data at SSRL, beamline 4-3 and processed them using SixPack
> (averaging 5 sweeps and normalization) and then used Athena to conduct
> linear combination fitting of the XANES region. It worked great!
>
> This year's data are presenting a problem when I get to the LCF step,
> however. When I import the sample data .mu file into Athena and plot it
> by pressing the orange "E" button, the normalized spectrum looks like it
> should (albeit noisy and sometimes not the best data, but that is not
> Athena's fault). When I attempt to apply the Linear Combination Fitting
> algorithm, fitting a number of spectra from reference samples also
> collected _last year and this year_, Athena inverts the sample.mu
> spectrum (between -1 and 0 rather than 0 and 1). It does not invert old
> or new reference sample spectra. When I try this with old data, using
> old and new reference sample spectra, I do not have this problem. With
> the inverted sample spectrum, it often does not find a fit, but
> sometimes it does.
>
> Attached is an example Athena project file, the .mu file, and a plot of
> the output of a test fit, for your reference.
>
> I am hoping someone can please help me figure out why this is happening.
> I cannot see anything wrong, based on my limited experience, but
> hopefully it is something I have done wrong that can be easily corrected.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Julie
>
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