I don't think so. This may be a better question for M. Newville, or whoever wrote the program.
mam
On 4/1/2014 9:56 AM, George Sterbinsky wrote:
Hi Matthew,
Hephaestus shows the strength of the Ll emission to be about 10% of the La2 emission. When fitting the spectrum as a sum of Gaussians, I find that the area of of the Gaussian used to fit the Ll is 24% of that used to fit the La2. What would cause the ratio determined from tabulated data to differ from that found in the data I collected? Am I misunderstanding the meaning of the "strength" value in Hephaestus?
Thanks,
George
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Matthew Marcus <mamarcus@lbl.gov <mailto:mamarcus@lbl.gov>> wrote:
OK, I think the "other Matt" has solved it - it's the L1 peak. I was confused by an inaccurate attempt at reading the energy scale.
Also, I somehow didn't read correctly the branching ratio from Hephaestus.
mam
On 3/31/2014 8:57 PM, George Sterbinsky wrote:
Hi Matt,
Thanks for your reply. Please see below.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Matt Newville <newville@cars.uchicago.edu <mailto:newville@cars.uchicago.edu> <mailto:newville@cars.__uchicago.edu <mailto:newville@cars.uchicago.edu>>> wrote:------------------------------__---------------
Hi George,
Calibrated spectra would help, but if we guess the calibration is 0.56
bins/ eV, then we'd have
I've attached a plot of the data showing the x-axis in keV. Also, as requested by Zack, I've attached a two column data file.
line E (eV) bin #
Co La1,2 775 434
O Ka1,2 525 294
C Ka1,2 277 155
which looks pretty good. This puts the the unknown peak near
380/0.56 which is 678 eV. Tthat's very close to Co Ll (M1->L3),
which is at 677 eV, and should be a bit less than 10% of Co La1 and
La2, which is roughly right.
Based on fitting the spectrum with Gaussians, the Co LI is 24% of the La2. As you mention, a value of roughly 10% is expected. What could cause such a discrepancy?
So, I think it's Co Ll. That says the sample is just Co, C, and O.
Is that reasonable?
Yes, it is. I think maybe a little fluorine too, but it is very weak as I mention in my response to Matthew.
What surprises me is that there is no signal from the elastic peak.
Was that somehow filtered out?
No, if there is an elastic peak it is probably lost under the Co La2.
Thanks,
George
The fact that the counts don't go to
zero between C and O could be many factors, including incomplete
charge collection. This (and Compton scattering) generally make peaks
have a slightly non-Gaussian shape, with a low-energy tail.
Cheers,
--Matt
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:01 PM, George Sterbinsky> _________________________________________________<GeorgeSterbinsky@u.__northwestern.edu <mailto:GeorgeSterbinsky@u.northwestern.edu> <mailto:GeorgeSterbinsky@u.__northwestern.edu <mailto:GeorgeSterbinsky@u.northwestern.edu>>> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am writing with a general XAS question. It does not necessarily pertain to
> Ifeffit, however, I think the topic is something some, maybe most, list
> members will be knowledgeable about. So it seems like this list is a good
> place to post this question.
>
> On to the question. I have attached a plot of a MCA spectrum collected with
> a vortex silicon drift detector. The spectrum is actually the average of
> several spectra, all collected in the post edge region of the Co L-edge. The
> spectra were averaged to reduce noise. The three peaks result from
> fluorescence from carbon, oxygen, and cobalt. Low-energy shoulders on the Co
> and O peaks are also observed. These can be seen as the regions of the
> spectrum that are not well reproduced by the fit. The main reason I included
> the fit in the plot is to illustrate the presence of these shoulders,
> particularly in the oxygen florescence, where the additional intensity is
> not so obvious.
>
> I am writing to see if anyone has any suggestion as to what the origins of
> these peaks might be. They are not due to additional elements, as they
> appear at the same incident energies as the main florescence peaks, i.e. the
> Co shoulder appears at the same incident energies as the main Co peak, and
> the O shoulder appears at the same incident energies as the main O peak. It
> is possible that the peaks result form other transitions. Considering Co,
> the main peak is due to L3/L2-M4 transitions, and the shoulder is in a
> position that could be consistent with L3/L2-M1 transitions. However, by
> fitting the peaks with Gaussians, one finds an area for the shoulder that is
> about 25% of the area of the main peak. This is significantly larger than
> what one might expect from tabulated transition strengths like those given
> in Hephaestus.
>
> To summarize, does anyone know what these shoulders might result from if not
> lower energy transitions? If they are low energy transitions, why would the
> relative transition strengths differ from tabulated values?
>
> Thank you,
> George
>
>
>
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