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From: ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:ifeffit-bounces@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Richard Mayes
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:02 AM
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
Cc: kfwang@henu.edu.cn; wang.kefan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Is there a Artemis User's Guide like the Athena?Kefan,
As someone who was in your place 2 years ago, one thing Bruce mentioned
was reading the papers of people you find on the mail list, however he
didn't specifically mention searching the mail list. When I had
questions, the answers were often already discussed on the mail-list. If
you're not a member of the mail-list, I highly recommend you join. As I
currently struggle writing a how-to manual that's supposed to shorten the
XAFS learning curve for our group, I find myself searching the mail-list
archives often to see how different people approach different issues.
Good luck on your quest!
-Richard
>
>> Hi Bruce
>
>> I have spent 1 month to learn the Athena by using your "ATHENA User's
>> Guide"
>> updated at Aug. 31,2007. I am very satisfied with it and thank you very
>> much. Now I am learning the ARTEMIS. However, till now I can not find a
>> suitable guide for a beginner. The PPT wrote by Shelly is not suitable
>> for
>> me. And the "artemisdoc.pod" is also puzzled me. Is there a Artemis
>> User's
>> Guide like the Athena?
>
>> Thanks
>
>> Kefan
>
>> --
>> Kefan Wang
>> School of Physics and Electronics
>> Henan University, 475004
>> E-mail: kfwang@henu.edu.cn; wang.kefan@gmail.com
>
>
> Hi Kefan,
>
> I suspect that my answer to this question will be of broad interest,
> so I am taking the liberty of CCing the Ifeffit mailing list.
>
> Thank you for the very kind words regaridng Athena. I am pleased that
> you found the Athena User's Guide so helpful. Sadly, I have not yet
> written a document of comparable extent for Artemis. I certainly
> understand that there is a need for comparable user guide, but finding
> the time and energy to write one has not yet happened. Writing the
> Athena User's Guide was fairly exhausting and I need to take a break
> before embarking on a similarly large document for Artemis.
>
> I have to defend Shelly's various presentations. I think they have a
> lot of good information in them. I think that using them along with
> other resources can give you enough of an overview of Artemis to get
> started. I strongly recommend that you work through Scott Calvin's
> ZnO example, which can be foun at
> http://cars9.uchicago.edu/iffwiki/HoraeSoftware#contrib
> ZnO is somewhat of an idealized example -- many of us work on
> problems that are pretty far removed from a simple crystal like ZnO.
> However, Scott's example is quite thorough. Working through it while
> carefully following his comments in the project journals will
> introduce many of Artemis' features.
>
> As for the pod file -- those are the files that get displayed when you
> click on one of the documentation buttons from within Artemis. I
> acknowledge that they are thin on details and somewhat out of date.
>
> The last bit of advice I can give you is to read the papers written by
> the names you see on the Ifeffit mailing list. The folks who offer
> answers to question on the list are also some of the best
> practitioners of EXAFS analysis using Feff. Although it might seem
> funny to read papers by Anatoly Frenkel or Paul Fons if you are
> studying environmental science (or Shelly Kelly's if you are a
> materials scientist), I strongly recommend doing so anyway. Their
> science might be pretty far away from what you do, but the EXAFS
> analysis strategies are quite instructive and are certainly
> transferable.
>
> I know that is not the answer you were hoping for, but it may be
> helpful nonetheless.
>
> Regards,
> B
>
> --
> Bruce Ravel ----------------------------------- bravel@bnl.gov
>
> National Institute of Standards and Technology
> Synchrotron Methods Group at Brookhaven National Laboratory
> Building 535A
> Upton NY, 11973
>
> My homepage: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel
> EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/
>
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